(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: because they cannot accomplish, what we can.
Because you can't understand what they are saying, they can't accomplish what you can? How do you know they cannot accomplish this? Please present evidence.
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: they communicate in a way, which fits their need for survival and socialize.
As do we.
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: But their level and quality of communication is far distinct from ours.
Far distinct? Distinct would suffice, but I digress. . . again. Yes, their manner of communication is vastly different than ours. However, how do you know that they are not communicating as well as you and I? (I know, we're not communicating that well.)
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: Animals are limited in their way of communication.
You are aware that humans are animals? Either way, I agree. All animals, humans included, are limited in their way of communication.
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: We can express our feelings, emotions, thinking, ideas, imagination, beauty, etc. in a way, animals cannot.
We are animals. Other animals can express their feelings. It's obvious. As for communicating ideas and beauty, I wouldn't know. I only speak English and bits of French and Portuguese. I don't speak "animal."
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: In short, we can share and exchange information, feelings, and ideas. Animals can't .
See above.
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: Beside this, we can express our thoughts through symbols of common agreement. Animals can't do this either.
Symbols of common agreement? I'm going to have to assume you mean something like a nod. Have you ever seen chimps hunt together? How about dolphins moving in pods?
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: Beside this, animal vocalisation, chattering etc. cannot be defined as language, with its enormous possibility of expression of the most diverse variation of things.We can also express ourself, and speak about the past, and the future, about reality, and hypothetical things.
Now, you may be right about some of that. Of course, none of us would know, would we? However, I have always found it odd that certain animals know to hunt in certain places and the like. Their parents teach them this, I assume. Then, they teach it to their children. That is something of the past, isn't it? Teaching things you have learned in the past. As for the future, I don't know. Neither do you. Until you can speak monkey or cat, you ain't got jack.
Oh, define language please and tell me why "animal chattering" cannot be defined as such.
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: we can lie, and say the truth. We can decide to do things, or not. We can create new things, which is also a essencial and exclusive trait of us.
Say what now? We can create new things, that is an exclusive trait to us? No. No, it isn't. Oh, and animals can make choices. Duh.
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: Our language has grammatics, and we can write down, what we think. Animals don't.
I'll give you that. Other animals cannot write. I wouldn't put it past a chimp, though.
(August 25, 2010 at 5:26 am)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: I think Einstein's Gulf brings it really to the point
You honestly think that there is concrete evidence of god and there is no evidence for evolution?