(March 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The claim that personally derived meaning and, to some extent, meaning and value derived by the people who care about us is, somehow, invalid … has not been demonstrated.It has been demonstrated. You just don’t like the answer.
(March 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: If my meaning and purpose is self-derived, and you have a problem with that, why is that?No problem. It’s just that you, Esquilax, with a tacit acceptance of a naturalism, cannot rationally defend meaning using a metaphysic that dismisses personal identity, intentionality, and universal essences.
(March 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The point is, what's the actual difference? In both cases, god-derived or human-derived, the meaning is resolved from a subjective mind and applied to reality.Your underlying assumption is that physical reality is the whole of reality. In such a reality, humans are an inalienable physical process, an electro-chemical reaction, without definable boundaries between it and the rest of physical reality.