RE: Does Atheism Lead to Nihilism?
March 10, 2015 at 3:08 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2015 at 3:13 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(March 10, 2015 at 12:59 pm)SteveII Wrote:(March 10, 2015 at 12:37 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: If that's what you call it, I suppose. I think of it as assuming responsibility for my own behavior, but we're quibbling words at this point.
"assuming responsibility" implies you have a standard by which you are measuring your (and presumably other's) behavior. Where do you get this standard?
I've already told you. Perhaps you missed this post?
Also, it's the plural, "standards". Assuming responsibility for my own actions is only one value among several that I hold important.
(March 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: That's the problem with these discussions: the theist argument only stands if you assume a whole lot of hidden premises to be true. Taken from actually neutral ground, the theist can hardly justify their own meaning any more than the atheist, it's just that they've taken it upon themselves to be the interrogator rather than the interrogated.
It's not just that, though. It's also the fact that theists also derive their morals subjectively. The very fact of choosing their faith is one clue. The fact that no matter the faith, they must cherry-pick the conventions in order to arrive at a coherent moral code is another, much stronger, clue.
The fact is, theists are "guilty" of the exact same moral relativism they disparage in atheists. The only difference is that most are not honest enough to admit as much.