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Argument for atheism from necessary evil
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RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil
(August 24, 2010 at 6:34 pm)Ace Wrote:
(August 24, 2010 at 4:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No, God forgives all those who want to be saved.
Saved from what exactly? What if you see nothing to be "saved" from?
Saved from what?

Obviously from an atheistic point of view, I don't believe in sin, god or afterlife.
I'm just curious.
Theists keep harping on being "saved" but from what?
You have stuff Ace that has a negative effect on your confidence. Being saved is to enable you to fulfil your potential.


(August 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:
(August 24, 2010 at 4:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(August 24, 2010 at 4:09 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: 4 if god exists those who commit morally evil acts will be tortured forever in hell
No, God forgives all those who want to be saved.

I don't believe there exists a person incapable or potentially undeserving of salvation.
Clearly you, a christian, have never studied the bible. I have by force and I will tell you that it is said countless times that people who sin go to hell. Everyone sins by the way so guess what...you should be ready for it Mr. Theist.
That's just silly. Everyone sins, including Christians. The point of God making the sacrifice for you is that you are forgiven those sins, should you wish to accept the forgiveness.

(August 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:

Unrepented sin sure.

(August 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:

Forgiveness of sin is what Xtianity is about Zeus.

From that link:
"For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
—Romans 6:12-23"

Sinning/ separation from God = death. Salvation = life. Choose life.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by padraic - August 24, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 4:16 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 24, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 25, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Ace Otana - August 26, 2010 at 10:46 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 26, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 6:56 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by HeyItsZeus - August 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 10:23 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Xyster - August 27, 2010 at 10:48 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:15 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:10 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 11:02 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 29, 2010 at 8:43 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Ace Otana - August 29, 2010 at 11:58 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 10:37 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 1:18 pm

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