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Reason for converting Good Christians
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RE: Reason for converting Good Christians
(January 17, 2009 at 1:32 pm)LukeMC Wrote: 1)
Yes, those weak minded proles need us to govern their lives with threats. Without threats, their tiny little brains wouldn't be able to cope. [/sarcasm]
I think it's unfair to say this kind of threat is necessary. You assume that the masses need to be treated like children in order to lead good lives.

2)
Atheists don't have a book telling them that homosexuals should be stoned, all human "life" has a soul (abortion, stem cell and euthanasia), or that all our science is wrong. Who is more likely to appose gay rights? The person whose book orders such, or the person who is free to make a decision? And I'm sure most atheists are quite undivided on this topic.

3)
The bible is okay with it.
4)You linked me to a martial arts website? Thinking
5)
Undecided So when people begin to wonder about their origins, what do you tell them? Evolution or creation? These "scientists" to whom it matters would never become scientists without the correct information being distributed in the classroom. And as for whether or not it bring "much benifits" or "happiness", you'd be wrogn to assert that it doesn't. The story of the real universe and our real origins is a magnificant one. By all means, be a christian, but don't deny your minions the right to learn this stuff.

1) Put it this way. And I am not talking about terrorists. There are many many people who have lead and are leading crime free, drug free lives BECAUSE they converted into Christianity from Atheism. Are there ANY drug dealers or criminals who have lead righteouss lives BECAUSE they converted from Chrstianity to Atheism?

2)Christians do not tell us all or even Most of our science is wrong.

Christians are more likely to oppose Gay rights, but Atheists very often place gays as disgusting and not of equal stature too.

If you want to specifically address gay rights, putting effort directly to it rather than through converting Christians may produce better results

3)AFAIK(I am not from the US), the people who liberated the blacks are Christians.

4)I just linked to a random forum,one I frequently visit. You need not look into any forum actually to know that the label 'gay' is frequently regarded as degratory

5)It does not matter. Have them stay Christian.

When they become Scientists, then and only then let them know evolution.

Of course this last part is a mere wish given the world as it is now.
Given that I do not see much free time nor benefit to me to continue this now, I just answer this last part:

(January 17, 2009 at 1:52 pm)LukeMC Wrote: How about constructing a list of pros and cons?


To me, this is the biggest one:"1) Put it this way. And I am not talking about terrorists. There are many many people who have lead and are leading crime free, drug free lives BECAUSE they converted into Christianity from Atheism. Are there ANY drug dealers or criminals who have lead righteouss lives BECAUSE they converted from Chrstianity to Atheism?"
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Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 11:59 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 1:32 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Meatball - January 17, 2009 at 9:07 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 17, 2009 at 12:51 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 17, 2009 at 12:56 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 17, 2009 at 2:16 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by AtheistPhil - January 17, 2009 at 2:33 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by CoxRox - January 17, 2009 at 4:36 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 9:42 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 18, 2009 at 10:31 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 10:45 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 10:27 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 10:36 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 10:56 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 18, 2009 at 11:19 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 10:59 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 18, 2009 at 1:24 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 12:47 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 2:08 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 2:03 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 2:46 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by lukec - January 19, 2009 at 4:54 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Edwardo Piet - January 19, 2009 at 7:23 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 19, 2009 at 9:03 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Edwardo Piet - January 19, 2009 at 11:13 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by lukec - January 19, 2009 at 2:35 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 19, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 19, 2009 at 11:51 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 19, 2009 at 2:07 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 19, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by WWLD - January 19, 2009 at 12:28 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Edwardo Piet - January 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by IamAwake - January 19, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by allan175 - January 20, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by CoxRox - January 20, 2009 at 6:53 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by leo-rcc - January 20, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Darwinian - January 20, 2009 at 8:42 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Rob - January 20, 2009 at 8:59 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 9:29 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by IamAwake - January 20, 2009 at 10:40 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by allan175 - January 20, 2009 at 10:54 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Rob - January 20, 2009 at 11:01 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 20, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by allan175 - January 20, 2009 at 1:06 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 1:58 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by leo-rcc - January 20, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 20, 2009 at 9:49 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 9:28 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 21, 2009 at 11:03 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 11:46 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 11:04 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 21, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Darwinian - January 21, 2009 at 1:35 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 21, 2009 at 2:15 pm

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