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Reason for converting Good Christians
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RE: Reason for converting Good Christians
(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: "First, no one is forcing anyone to convert. The slogans are there to espouse an opinion, to make people think. If a mere poster converts someone, well, they weren't that religious in the first place ^_^

Second, atheists don't stand outside "good churches" with placards quoting Dawkins, Darwin, and Einstein.
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This does not answer this thread, which is WHY do we want them to convert.
Actually, it does: I explicitly stated that atheists don't want to convert people. They simply point out the facts: there probably isn't a God.

(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: "
Third, it is the theist who is more likely to commit a crime than the atheist: there is a disproportionaly high number of Christians, Muslims, and other religious people in the Western prisons than there are in the general population (for example, though atheists make up ~15% of the general US population, they only make up 0.21% (!!!) of the US prison population"

I do not believe this. Even if it is true it may be that the convicts claim they tare Christians to hopefully get a lighter sentence.
That is only the case in the US (as far as I am aware). Not ever nation is as daft as to be lenient on its theists. All are equal in the eyes of the law, regardless of theological stance.

(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: Quote source.
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r188.pdf

(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: "Religion slows scientific progress"

Only in certain areas, like stem cells which I have mentioned which Atheists are divided on too.
It's not a question of opinion.

(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: What other areas of Science is hampered? List?
The science education of children springs to mind.

(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: "delays human rights"

Whether they delay human rights is debatable too. To me they seem to fight for human rights.
Yes, because the Religious Right are well-known for championing women's rights, ethnic rights, gay rights, handicapped rights, etc.

(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: "seeks to actively opress people they deem unworthy or sinners."

Like who? Most of them they most actively attack or oppress are, logically, the crime committing gropu, which are who we atheists should oppress too.
The point is that their condemnations are against as arbitrary as their beliefs. Why, for instance, do they insist on dictating who can be married to whom?

(January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm)Ephrium Wrote: "Because in this day in age, beleif no reason other than you were told to beleive so is absurd"

Yes, agreed, but this thread is more about benefits to society and you and me.
And what benefits does religion bring?
"I am a scientist... when I find evidence that my theories are wrong, it is as exciting as if the evidence proved them right." - Stargate: SG1

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone. - Charles Darwin
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Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 11:59 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 1:32 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Meatball - January 17, 2009 at 9:07 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 17, 2009 at 12:51 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 17, 2009 at 12:56 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 17, 2009 at 2:16 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by AtheistPhil - January 17, 2009 at 2:33 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by CoxRox - January 17, 2009 at 4:36 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 17, 2009 at 9:42 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 18, 2009 at 10:31 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 10:45 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 10:27 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 10:36 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 10:56 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 18, 2009 at 11:19 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 10:59 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 18, 2009 at 1:24 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 12:47 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 2:08 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 2:03 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 2:46 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 18, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 18, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 18, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by lukec - January 19, 2009 at 4:54 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Edwardo Piet - January 19, 2009 at 7:23 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 19, 2009 at 9:03 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Edwardo Piet - January 19, 2009 at 11:13 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by lukec - January 19, 2009 at 2:35 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Demonaura - January 19, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 19, 2009 at 11:51 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 19, 2009 at 2:07 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by LukeMC - January 19, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by WWLD - January 19, 2009 at 12:28 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Edwardo Piet - January 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by IamAwake - January 19, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by allan175 - January 20, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by CoxRox - January 20, 2009 at 6:53 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by leo-rcc - January 20, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Darwinian - January 20, 2009 at 8:42 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Rob - January 20, 2009 at 8:59 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 9:29 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by IamAwake - January 20, 2009 at 10:40 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by allan175 - January 20, 2009 at 10:54 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Rob - January 20, 2009 at 11:01 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 20, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by allan175 - January 20, 2009 at 1:06 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 20, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 1:58 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Eilonnwy - January 20, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by leo-rcc - January 20, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 20, 2009 at 9:49 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 9:28 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 21, 2009 at 11:03 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by DD_8630 - January 21, 2009 at 11:46 am
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 20, 2009 at 11:04 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Ephrium - January 21, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Darwinian - January 21, 2009 at 1:35 pm
RE: Reason for converting Good Christians - by Tiberius - January 21, 2009 at 2:15 pm

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