So I have heard terms like instinct, survival, net advantage, cognitive threshold, chimps, same brains/needs. There are of course theories on how we arrive at our morality. Nothing to convincingly argue that morality is objective. If morality is subjective, you end up with moral anti-realism and that leads to the conclusion Dawkins wrote: "There is at bottom no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pointless indifference. … We are machines for propagating DNA. … It is every living object's sole reason for being." As I pointed out, no one lives that way--not many people even THINK that way; they partake in the "noble lie". This leads back to the OP where I linked to the article on Adam: "There is no escaping the nihilism as an atheist" which he finds to be utterly depressing.
The statement has been made that any morality from God is also subjective. From your favorite Christian philosopher WLC:
If these attributes necessarily flow from the greatest conceivable being, they are not subjective. If we are made in the image of God (having some of the same attributes: soul, personhood, sentient, capable of love, having free will, moral, etc.), we have within us an objective framework for moral values and duties.
Consequently, this is also the reason I don't think atheists go around killing people but rather explains why we feel we have intrinsic meaning, value and purpose; why we know what is right and wrong; why there is self-sacrifice; and why we feel there are such things as universal truths (what the "noble lie" otherwise provides).
The statement has been made that any morality from God is also subjective. From your favorite Christian philosopher WLC:
Quote:God's moral nature is expressed in relation to us in the form of divine commands which constitute our moral duties or obligations. Far from being arbitrary, these commands flow necessarily from His moral nature. In the Judaeo-Christian tradition, the whole moral duty of man can be summed up in the two great commandments: First, you shall love the Lord your God with all your strength and with all your soul and with all your heart and with all your mind, and, second, you shall love your neighbor as yourself. On this foundation we can affirm the objective goodness and rightness of love, generosity, self-sacrifice, and equality, and condemn as objectively evil and wrong selfishness, hatred, abuse, discrimination, and oppression.
Read more: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-indis...z3UGxkM4uD
If these attributes necessarily flow from the greatest conceivable being, they are not subjective. If we are made in the image of God (having some of the same attributes: soul, personhood, sentient, capable of love, having free will, moral, etc.), we have within us an objective framework for moral values and duties.
Consequently, this is also the reason I don't think atheists go around killing people but rather explains why we feel we have intrinsic meaning, value and purpose; why we know what is right and wrong; why there is self-sacrifice; and why we feel there are such things as universal truths (what the "noble lie" otherwise provides).
