RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
March 18, 2015 at 10:54 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2015 at 10:55 pm by Pizza.)
(March 18, 2015 at 10:43 pm)Lek Wrote:Yes he did go reread Job. If God has no problem hurting people to make a point then he has no problem tricking people to make point.(March 18, 2015 at 8:56 pm)Pizz-atheist Wrote: It is not. It isn't even irrelevant to my argument. You just beg the question by assuming God isn't letting Satan (I almost said Stan, ha!) deceive you for some good God deems greater then your personal salvation. This is my problem with Christianity even if you assume supernaturalism you still have a self-defeater namely that you can't give a good reason to believe you are not being deceived by the devil. Christianity leads to global skepticism.
So, if anything you've helped make my case for me.
The point I want to make is Biblical theism has a self-defeater because in the OT Yahweh had Satan test Job. If the scriptural data is to be trusted(as Christians say it should) it is Yahweh's character to test his creations faith. What better way to test his creations then to have Satan create a false religion called Christianity with a false prophet?
God didn't allow Satan to deceive Job, but allowed him to put Job through trials.
Quote: If we honestly seek God, he's going to show himself to us. If your proposition is true, God has allowed countless billions to be condemned who earnestly sought him. Ain't gonna happen.Not if Christ is a false prophet. You need to show he isn't a false prophet.
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