RE: Reason for converting Good Christians
January 18, 2009 at 10:23 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2009 at 10:47 pm by Ephrium.)
"The good, in every case (that I have seen) can come through secular means and much of the evil cannot."
Lets take the case of non-psychopathic serial killers. Unfortunately, newspapers when they come out do not list the religious views of them.
With God and the church, the people are taught what God wants and are indoctrinated in concepts of what God wants and do not want, Good deeds and sin, righteousness and evil, rewards and punishment. These are concepts which have a prohibitive effect of them doing serial killing.
What can Atheism provide against it? A vague concept of morality? Or a rewards and punishment reality that you will be punished ONLY if you get caught?
You are right that many atheists have a concept of morality in them, taught or in born. But you have to accept that many do not. What on Earth is there to stop them from doing crime if a situation of greater risk of rewards vs smaller risk of getting caught presents?
A god, with "With God and the church, the people are taught what God wants and are indoctrinated in concepts of what God wants and do not want, Good deeds and sin, righteousness and evil, rewards and punishment" can greatly induce these people to not commit these.
The assualted in the street is only one of many posiible scenario. Virtually anything, any crimes, anywhere are included. Like I have said, I will impose Christianity, which in most likely hoods are going to result in a better society. To me the ends justify the means.
I will be willing to trade children's right to knowledge of evolution for a safer enviornment anyday.
Christians do not go against science unnecessarily. They go against it ONLY when it clashes with the biblical teachings, and even then tries to go around them.
For example, the When it is implied in the bible Earth is 6000 years old, they now say each of the beginning days can represent an x period.
So virtually the ONLY area, or should I call it point, of science which they ddo not let pass is abiogenesis. This is just a speck in the whole area of science.
Lets take the case of non-psychopathic serial killers. Unfortunately, newspapers when they come out do not list the religious views of them.
With God and the church, the people are taught what God wants and are indoctrinated in concepts of what God wants and do not want, Good deeds and sin, righteousness and evil, rewards and punishment. These are concepts which have a prohibitive effect of them doing serial killing.
What can Atheism provide against it? A vague concept of morality? Or a rewards and punishment reality that you will be punished ONLY if you get caught?
You are right that many atheists have a concept of morality in them, taught or in born. But you have to accept that many do not. What on Earth is there to stop them from doing crime if a situation of greater risk of rewards vs smaller risk of getting caught presents?
A god, with "With God and the church, the people are taught what God wants and are indoctrinated in concepts of what God wants and do not want, Good deeds and sin, righteousness and evil, rewards and punishment" can greatly induce these people to not commit these.
The assualted in the street is only one of many posiible scenario. Virtually anything, any crimes, anywhere are included. Like I have said, I will impose Christianity, which in most likely hoods are going to result in a better society. To me the ends justify the means.
I will be willing to trade children's right to knowledge of evolution for a safer enviornment anyday.
Christians do not go against science unnecessarily. They go against it ONLY when it clashes with the biblical teachings, and even then tries to go around them.
For example, the When it is implied in the bible Earth is 6000 years old, they now say each of the beginning days can represent an x period.
So virtually the ONLY area, or should I call it point, of science which they ddo not let pass is abiogenesis. This is just a speck in the whole area of science.
