New Testament arguments

[Huggy Bear]

Unsurprisingly - you think wrong. According to christian doctrine - we are all immortal. The only difference between us - regular souls - and Jeesus - an incarnation of God - is that he "knew" he was going to a "better place", whereas we can only believe it on the basis of some very dubious "evidence" presented by morally and intellectually bankrupt people and institutions. If god told me himself that I was going to heaven to rule over all humanity - you could crucify me every week until the end of days.

No, we are not immortal, too many dead Christians to believe that doctrine. We believe that death is a transition from one place to another. we are given immortality at the resurrection, where our bodies are changed into theophanies.

Jesus died a sinner (all the worlds sin that would ever be committed was placed on him), he spent the 3 days of his death in hell.
He was still human he didn't want to die.
Who want's to be beaten to a bloody pulp and then crucified (probably the worst death ever devised)? He was so stressed out he started sweating blood.
Jesus had to have faith just like the rest of us, and he went to his death believing in just one scripture.

For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption (decay). - Psalm 16:10

OK, fine - I have NEVER sinned.

So you never lied?... wait, you just did.

Ugh... God, you're dumb. There is a substantial difference between "fiat money" and "toy money". If you don't believe me - try paying for your groceries (or drugs, or hookers) with "Monopoly" money.

Please explain what, exactly, makes a real dollar bill inherently more "valuable" than a monopoly dollar bill...

The actual value of a dollar bill is less than 6 cents.

Oh, really? So who do we get to torture and kill... I mean - sacrifice, in order to cure genetic diseases?

Really?



Scientific progress is built off of the sacrifice of humans and animals.

People don't realize that we collected and use a lot of data from the Nazis and the experiments they conducted in the concentration camps.

Genetic diseases are real and have observable symptoms and as such - can't be cured by barbaric nonsense.

What about Black men being injected with syphilis in Tuskegee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_sy...experiment

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment (/tʌsˈkiːɡiː/)[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African-American men in Alabama.

You were saying?

The whole concept of sin is completely un-testable and most likely made up by clever people in order to control dumb people, just like the rest of religious doctrines.

No, it's testable, you just don't get to come back and announce the results of the test.

When you live in Make-Believe-Land you can claim anything as a "cure" for any imaginary illness. That doesn't make it right, or true. Only convenient.

All I can say is that one day we will all be certain of the truth..

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Wrong, hell was not created for humans, the Bible states clearly that hell was created for the "devil and his angels"

The bible says lots of shit. Only assholes like you believe it.

Hey minimalist, I have a hypothetical question for you, just want to see what you think about this scenario.

Say you died and found out heaven and hell were in fact real, and God says to you, "I know you didn't believe on earth, but I'm willing to forgive and let you into heaven if you just repent, refuse to repent and you go to hell.

Do you repent?