Evidence God Exists: Part II

[Thor]

Shouldn't you also mention man's malevolent nature? There are people who kill and harm other people. If you mention all these harmful forces in your laundry list, then how about man? Shouldn't man's deadly nature also be included to demonstrate an inconsistency with the existence of a loving deity?

Isn't it people like you who like to tell us that "God" gave us "free will"? If that's true, then anything done by man doesn't count because we have "free will". This lets you off the hook when someone tries to use horrible things done by people as evidence against a god. If I were to say "Your god stood by and did nothing while Hitler murdered millions!", you would just say, "God gave man free will!". And anyway, this is NOT comparable to things that your deity would have had to create himself (like killer microbes, poisonous plants, internal parasites, etc...)

What about accidents? People fall and and break their necks, die, etc. Shouldn't you mention accidents as a sign there's no God?

I could. But, again, "accidents" are not specifically created by your deity (unless you want to say that they are, in which case, I'll have a field day!).

While you're at it, you might as well mention mistakes. People make mistakes and lose their jobs, driving privileges, even life.

Are you saying that your deity causes people to make mistakes? If not, then this is a miserable argument.

In fact, by your logic, everything negative and tragic that occurs contradicts a loving deity.

Not at all! I'm only talking about things that were (supposedly) created by your "loving" deity. This deity would have had to create horrible viruses, harmful parasites, poisonous plants, flesh eating bacteria, etc... This is hardly the same thing as acts of man, accidents or mistakes. Talk about reaching for straws...

God could only exist if we lived in a perfect world without harmful creatures or foods, man's evil nature, accidents, mistakes, or tragic events!

I didn't say this at all. And you seem to miss my point. A god may exist. However, the god YOU believe in cannot exist because it is a contradiction. A "loving" deity would not unleash things like malaria, river blindness, elephantisis, smallpox, or bubonic plague on people he "loves".

The point is that God is not going to come down and explain every intricacy of his complex world.

Of course not! Fictional beings can't do anything.

If people tried to figure it themselves, they would get the same result you would get if you tried to figure out the smart phone on your own.

But I can take a smart phone apart and maybe figure out how it works. I can't possibly figure out the reasons behind unreasonable behavior unless the perpetrator of the unreasonable bahavior explains his reasons to me. Not a very good analogy.