How to save your children from hell

[urlawyer]

Ok, so perhaps I should reshape my question another way: why wouldn't god just create people he knew would be good and obedient? They could still have free will and have their faith challenged in a healthy and growth providing way, but in the end no one would have to suffer eternal torment.

Because God knows if you take the good, and then you take the bad, and you take them both, thier you have the facts of Life... The facts of life.



In truth 'the bad' often times are fodder or flux needed to turn iron into harden steel. The bad serve a purpose. In that they help the good to be shaped better.

I think you're still misunderstanding me here... or maybe I'm misunderstanding you since that first sentence made no real sense in standard English.

What I'm trying to say is that your god, being an omniscient god, can see what will happen were he to create a certain human. Why not, instead of creating all these people who will burn in hell for their disbelief or otherwise, just make people he knows will eventually make it to heaven? Keep in mind that just because a person will get into heaven doesn't mean he will always be good or have good things happen to him while here on earth. Take for instance all the mass murderers who were faithful or the sick and dying who accept on their deathbed. You still have free will, good and evil and a plethora of different experiences that will challenge your faith, the only difference is that no one will end up in hell because God was able to stop it before hand.

So do you follow all the old testament laws God provided?

Luke 16:17

It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.

Christ meant the whole law.. So what does the whole law mean? Does it stop at a list of do's and dont's? Absolutly not. The law also makes provisions for attonement for sin. In finding and excepting the atonement offered by Christ we complete the whole law.

You're dodging the question here Drich, but from what it sounds like you're actually adding more to the laws of the old testament. Why don't you give a run through Leviticus and tell me which laws you still practice today.