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Poll: Which is best?
This poll is closed.
Ford
15.00%
3 15.00%
Chevy
5.00%
1 5.00%
Dodge
0%
0 0%
Toyota
20.00%
4 20.00%
Nissan
10.00%
2 10.00%
Buick
0%
0 0%
Shelby (before they were with Ford)
5.00%
1 5.00%
Honda
10.00%
2 10.00%
Other
35.00%
7 35.00%
Total 20 vote(s) 100%
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CAR BRANDS
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(March 25, 2015 at 1:19 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: It's no Nissan Leaf.

It's an electric car that does 0-60 in 3.2 secs and does 151 mph. It's no slouch.

I am ready for electric cars. I don't think the technology is 100% there yet, but it's fucking time.

I never mentioned anything about performance. I have no doubts it would perform just as well as petrol/diesel cars. I don't even knock what Tesla are doing in the slightest, they make some amazing shit.

But a petrol/diesel car is fundamentally different to an electric one. I believe Top Gear made a point in one of their shows remarking on the end of gas consuming cars as a sad thing. One of the reasons petrol heads will never have the same passion for electrics is that there's an element of sterility to electric cars. They have no personality, if you will. There's something fundamentally exciting about hearing a V8 roar up and you won't ever get that from an electric car company. It's for that reason, amongst many others that differentiates electric cars from normal cars, that they can't be compared. Not now, not ever IMO. You can maybe compare how they perform as a utility, in terms of whether they perform their role better as transport. They may well exceed what normal cars do right now in this regard in only a few years perhaps, but I don't think you will ever be able to compare them in terms of machines that are built to thrill you and give you enjoyment. People just don't enjoy electric cars the same way they do petrol cars.

That's ofcourse not to say electric cars are altogether boring, or that they can't be exciting. But it's not the same thing hearing a petrol car.

In case you have a spare 8 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gFGX43vubM

(March 25, 2015 at 2:01 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: You know Napo you're right. American cars suck so bad there is absolutely no reason to compare say a $65,000 BMW M4 with a $60,000 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat. That is unless you actually wanted the better performance available in the Challenger due to its extra 250ish horsepower for less money. Wink

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2015...-coupe.pdf

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2015...ellcat.pdf

Typical Yank way of thinking. More == better.

Bet that thing can go in a straight line really well. FYI more horsepower does not equal better 'performance'. Strange, I don't see many dodge touring cars but BMW have touring cars in almost every class available. Including the M4. Says it all over their ability to actually drive consistently well. And around corners.
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CAR BRANDS - by DIRTY_DEEDS_93 - March 24, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 24, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Alex K - March 24, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by vorlon13 - March 24, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 24, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Ravenshire - March 24, 2015 at 6:48 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by DIRTY_DEEDS_93 - March 25, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 25, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 12:51 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by DIRTY_DEEDS_93 - March 26, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 25, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 24, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by vorlon13 - March 24, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Alex K - March 24, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by TheRealJoeFish - March 24, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Alex K - March 24, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Minimalist - March 24, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 24, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Chas - March 24, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Chas - March 25, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 25, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Anomalocaris - March 25, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 24, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by IATIA - March 25, 2015 at 12:58 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Norman Humann - March 24, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 24, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Anomalocaris - March 24, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Joods - March 24, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Faith No More - March 24, 2015 at 3:23 pm
CAR BRANDS - by KUSA - March 24, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 24, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Brakeman - March 24, 2015 at 6:48 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 24, 2015 at 8:44 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by AFTT47 - March 24, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by The Valkyrie - March 24, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Drich - March 24, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 24, 2015 at 11:08 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Drich - March 24, 2015 at 11:50 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Joods - March 25, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by JuliaL - March 25, 2015 at 1:43 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Joods - March 25, 2015 at 1:50 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Exian - March 25, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 25, 2015 at 9:47 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 25, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Anomalocaris - March 25, 2015 at 11:30 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Exian - March 24, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 25, 2015 at 3:40 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Exian - March 25, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 25, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 25, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 25, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 25, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by JuliaL - March 25, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Joods - March 25, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Anomalocaris - March 25, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Joods - March 25, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by JuliaL - March 25, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Joods - March 25, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by JuliaL - March 25, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Joods - March 25, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 25, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 25, 2015 at 12:33 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 25, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 25, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 25, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 25, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 9:08 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 26, 2015 at 10:41 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 25, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 7:09 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2015 at 12:56 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Drich - March 26, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Anomalocaris - March 26, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 25, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 25, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 25, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 3:56 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by rexbeccarox - March 25, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 26, 2015 at 5:37 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Drich - March 26, 2015 at 10:29 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by JuliaL - March 26, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 26, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Anomalocaris - March 26, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 26, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Anomalocaris - March 26, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 26, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 26, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 26, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 26, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 26, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by pocaracas - March 26, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by popeyespappy - March 26, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Cyberman - March 26, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by c172 - March 26, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: CAR BRANDS - by Napoléon - March 29, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: CAR BRANDS - by SteelCurtain - March 29, 2015 at 6:05 pm

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