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[Napoléon]

Hey, nothing like a nice insult to display your butthurt. You're funny when you're touchy like this, though I doubt it's intentional.

If in doubt play the butthurt card.

Nobody's butthurt. This is a bloody car thread, I'm not going to be butthurt over a disagreement on a damn car thread. I just think you're talking out of your arse.

Also, I never insulted you. I said you would be intentionally dense, and you were. I never said you actually were dense full stop as a person. That you insist on being so dense now just justifies my initial suspicion.

Seriously, because a lot of people think a certain way doesn't verify the truth of the thinking. Whether one is a belief and the other is an opinion is irrelevant to the point, and you're certainly smart enough to know that ... or so I had assumed. At any rate, keep digging. I'm sure you'll impress someone.

Cars don't have personality, people do.

My initial point just went straight over your head, that or you just flat out misinterpreted me. If there's a reason I keep responding it's because I don't think you interpreted me correctly. But yes, I shall 'keep digging'.

1. I never said 'just because a lot of people think a certain way' means something is truthful. I never made any claims about truth. I said MYSELF it is a subjective opinion. Is your reading comprehension that lacking, or do you want me to quote it for you?

2. There is a massive distinction given the context of this discussion in belief and opinion. You invoked the 'appeal to popularity', as though I was making claims on the basis a lot of people disagree with you. Not my point at all.

You say it's bullshit to apply personality to cars. All I said was a lot of people would disagree and in essence it's as much a turn of phrase as anything else. I think most people would get my basic point, and it's most certainly not that cars have actual personalities. Hence why I said you were being pedantic. You went and took it completely literally however.

I'm done digging.

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I agree. With a caveat. I think the idea of new brands having a following like 100 year old brands is a little ridiculous. In 50 years, if Tesla survives and propagates, it'll have a following just the same. For kids that will grow up with electric cars being the majority of the vehicles on the road, they will view petrol vehicles like we view the big block 427 that is not even remotely feasible today in the world of 1.3L turbocharged engines that output the same power. They will be the awesome things of a bygone generation.

That's my contention though. I just don't think they will. I don't think people will buy into electric cars the same way we do into petrol cars now. Don't get me wrong, I still envision plenty of people who will be passionate about transport, and electric cars in general. But I can't see there being a great general interest from 'petrol-heads' or the electric equivalent. I don't think there will ever be an equivalent.

But that's just my opinion.

Not to mention that as the electric car becomes more of a necessity, the major brands will have their own. Already Porsche, Ferrari, and McLaren have full hybrid hypercars available, as you probably saw on Top Gear. The electric range on them is like 8 miles, but the point is that they are 200mph hypercars that have electric motors in them.

Efficiency and charge is the major issue. For a vehicle to have the proper utility, it needs to be able to accomplish a road trip. I should be able to drive 12 hours straight or I should be able to recharge in a time period not appreciably longer than it takes me to pump gas. Electric cars will be the playthings of people who can afford a road trip car and a daily driver car until that happens.

Or, alternatively, America will develop long range mass transit infrastructure as a result of electric cars becoming popular. Wishful thinking...

That's true on the other major brands getting involved. I think a lot of companies are also focusing on driverless cars. It may well be that the advent of the electric car coincides with driverless cars. In which case, I think that only lends support to my hypothesis above.

Who knows though, in the future anything could happen.