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Need help choosing Greek/Roman authors
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RE: Need help choosing Greek/Roman authors
(March 1, 2015 at 4:39 pm)Nestor Wrote: So last week I finished Herodotus' The History, translated by David Grene, ...

There's also some pretty disturbing stories about fathers who were tricked into eating their sons and another few about people getting mutilated or castrated that aren't for the faint of heart. But Herodotus really transported me as a reader into his world, especially when he describes seeing the ancient pyramids which were already 2,000 years old in his day! I can't wait until I come to Thucydides, who apparently takes a few shots at Herodotus in his History of the Peloponnesian War because he thought his rival inferior.
Overall I give it 4/5.
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There is a directness and immediacy about much of the ancient Greek writings that I find quite appealing. Their sensibility has not been tainted with Christian thinking (because Christianity did not yet exist, for those who need this information), which makes it quite refreshing.

And the shots at Herodotus are just, as Herodotus is a bit uncritical in his acceptance of wild stories. Giant ants....


(March 6, 2015 at 7:23 pm)Nestor Wrote: ...

Aristotle - Nicomachian Ethics. What translation?
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You should go back and reread the thread from the beginning. Here is my post recommending something for that, with added bold for the relevant part:

(February 8, 2015 at 7:18 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:
(December 25, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Nestor Wrote: So, for a while now I have wanted to go through some of the monumental voices of ancient Western civilization. I just ordered Homer's Iliad and Odyssey (translated by Robert Fagles) and I own Virgil's Aeneid (trans. by W.F. Jackson), which I haven't yet read, and Lucretius' The Nature of Things (trans. by Alicia Stallings), which I have read. I'm looking for the following (please recommend translation if you have preference):

1 pre-Socratic philosopher and 1 historian.
1 book by Plato, not including the Republic (which I plan on buying already).
2 books by Aristotle
1 or 2 other Greek philosophers and/or historians
2 or 3 Roman philosophers and/or historians
1 book by Cicero.

I think that should be a good entry collection. Thanks for your help.

I recommend getting an old copy of The Stoic and Epicurean Philosophers: The Complete Extant Writings of Epicurus, Epicetus, Lucretius, Marcus Aurelius edited by Whitney J. Oates. You can buy this from web sites that sell used books, and it can be currently had from Amazon for about $22 including shipping, though you may be able to find it cheaper elsewhere. It contains a very good translation of Epicurus' works, which I highly recommend to everyone.

For one of your books on Aristotle, I recommend The Nicomachean Ethics translated by W.D. Ross, put out by Oxford. You can currently buy a paperback of that from Amazon for about $7.

For Plato, I would go with the Euthyphro, Apology, Crito and Phaedo, which you can get all together in a Dover Thrift Edition for about $3. They call this The Trial and Death of Socrates, and it is the Benjamin Jowett translation. Jowett is one of the most poetic translators of Plato, and is well-suited for a work like the Apology.

You can also find most of these works online, for free.

I have not filled your list, but it should get you started.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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Need help choosing Greek/Roman authors - by Mudhammam - December 25, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: Need help choosing Greek/Roman authors - by Minimalist - December 25, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Need help choosing Greek/Roman authors - by Alex K - December 25, 2014 at 4:27 pm
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