Evidence God Exists: Part II

[AngelThMan]

...If I were to say "Your god stood by and did nothing while Hitler murdered millions!", you would just say, "God gave man free will!". And anyway, this is NOT comparable to things that your deity would have had to create himself (like killer microbes, poisonous plants, internal parasites, etc...)

Of course it is comparable. Free will or not, God created man, and gave him a capability to become angry, to sin and to even carry out evil acts. So by your standards, this is inconsistent with a loving deity.

What about accidents? People fall and and break their necks, die, etc. Shouldn't you mention accidents as a sign there's no God?

I could. But, again, "accidents" are not specifically created by your deity (unless you want to say that they are, in which case, I'll have a field day!).

The point is that we live in a world where horrible accidents can happen. Man, as well as accidents, can harm us in the same way that poisonous animals and plants can. Why point to deadly parasites and fungus, which are relatively obscure, when you can look at the horrible and nefarious elements that are all around us?

Man and tragedies can inflict much more damage on the world than poisonous snakes ever could. So if God created a world for us to live in where accidents and tragedies can occur, why can't he also create, or allow to evolve, poison berries and killer microbes, especially if, for whatever reason, he needed them as as a tool, whether his own or for the progress of certain species?

What difference does it make whether a person dies from a scorpion bite, or at the hands of a fellow man? The outcome is the same.

If you're saying that a loving deity could not have created a deadly scorpion, then you should also say that he could not have allowed man's dark side to develop. In other words, our world should be perfect and heaven-like, or God is contradicted.

While you're at it, you might as well mention mistakes. People make mistakes and lose their jobs, driving privileges, even life.

Are you saying that your deity causes people to make mistakes?...

No. But we live in a world where mistakes happen, which sometimes can be fatal. Since awful things can happen by means of mistakes, doesn't this negate the existence of a loving deity in the same way that viruses do? After all, God 'created' a world where mistakes can occur, didn't he?

You've said that only certain creations negate the existence of a loving deity, and not necessarily our imperfect, non-heaven-like world. Can you tell me what the cutoff is? What horrible things may and may not have been created in order for God not to be contradicted?

But I can take a smart phone apart and maybe figure out how it works.

Unless you're an engineer, I seriously doubt that. But that's another issue.

I can't possibly figure out the reasons behind unreasonable behavior unless the perpetrator of the unreasonable bahavior explains his reasons to me...

This is true. But now you need to understand that God has no interest in explaining it to you. He'd prefer that you have faith in him despite these things that you don't understand.