How to save your children from hell

[Pyrrho]

I think the most Biblical response to the question is to say that infants go to hell, not heaven. Just look at the requirements that the Bible says are necessary to get into heaven, and one can easily see that infants do not satisfy those requirements. None of them believe in Jesus at all, as they are too young to have any understanding about such things.

For example, consider John 3:


15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Infants do not believe, therefore they go to hell. That is what the Bible says. Sissy Christians don't like it, so they pull ideas out of their asses and pretend they are following the Bible.

So, that is why a good Christian should not kill his or her children as infants, because it would condemn them to eternity in hellfire.


And there are Christians who take such a view:

http://nycpastor.com/2015/01/04/where-do...babies-go/

So the question then becomes why would god even allow the babies to come into existence if they're just going to go to hell?

You are now heading in the direction of another thread. Why create anything:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-32335.html

If you are interested in my opinion on that topic, you can read my posts in that thread. Of course, you might want this to go in another direction, which can be dealt with by quoting things like:


Romans 3:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


Romans 5:

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:


Genesis 8:

21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.


Proverbs 22:

15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.


Psalm 14:

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.


Psalm 51:

5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.


Psalm 58:

3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.


Basically, according to the Bible, everyone deserves hell. It is only through God's goodness and mercy that anyone gets into heaven.

So, there are three positions. One is to accept these sorts of ideas, which is what Augustine did. Another is to be half-assed about it, and pretend the bits that one does not like are not in the Bible, and embrace some of it. And the third option is to reject the Bible as the ramblings of primitive people who did not know what they were writing about.

Most of the people who post here take the third option. Most "Christians" are half-assed and take the second option. A few take the Bible seriously. Very few. Almost none, really.