(March 30, 2015 at 5:07 pm)bennyboy Wrote:Just imagine debates whether both sides just keep yelling about BOP.(March 30, 2015 at 4:13 pm)Pizz-atheist Wrote: Do you have an argument for moral realism or not? I'm tired of people using the burden of proof as an excuse to not add anything to a dialogue.
+1
The BOP doesn't necessarily go to the one making the most recent claim, but to the one making the claim least supported by direct and simple observation. One can simply enough look around, see that even among religious people there's no uniform standard of morality, and pretty simply dismiss claims of an objective morality. Just because some dude X years ago asserted objective morality doesn't mean I now have the BOP to disprove that assertion, unless it's found footing in evidence or at least strong logic.
Bob: No, you have the burden of proof.
Jake: No! You do!
Bob: No you!
Jake: NO! YOU!
Me: UGH! Someone just give an argument already!!!
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