(January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am)Ephrium Wrote: I have said I will spend less time so I try to keep to it....
A few months ago an England native spoke to me. He said England is now not a good place to live in because gangs of youngsters or skinheads always go around making trouble. He said it is so bad to the extend that you have to be on your guard whenever you see a group of youths.
Englands' Christianity level has dropped to about 35% or less.
Basically these youngsters just do serious and big stuff just because they feel like it or that it is a challenge.
Remember the happy slapping fad one or two years ago in Europe, where members of the public were just randomly assaulted and vid of the assault posted on the Internet? Atheism as you have it.
Are you seriously suggesting a causal link between the long-standing decline of Christianity and the spat of happy-slapping we had a few years ago?
Are you aware that Christianity has been steadily falling for decades (~10% in the past 17 years), while happy-slapping is a very recent phenomenon that has absolutely no religious connotations?
Are you aware that violent and criminal youths exist in all countries, regardless of religion? Are you aware that religious countries are more violent than their secular counterparts?
It wouldn't surprise me if you were caught up in the paedophile hysteria, and attacked a paediatrician's house.
(January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am)Ephrium Wrote: Thank God this did not really spread to America.What does this have to do with atheism?
In Atheist China just recently we have the case where to boost profits melamine was added to milk powder, not caring about the tens of thousands' health who are affected, numbering for far more than the victims of 9/11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
(January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am)Ephrium Wrote: In Atheist Russia, we still remember the Russian spy who was poisoned by radiation.... you know that over 90% of Russians identify as Eastern Orthodox, right? Not to mention the prevalence of other religions and Christian denominations.
Good Lord.
(January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am)Ephrium Wrote: These are all because there is no God and conscience to check these people.Absolute bull. All you you have done is cite examples of violence and illegality, and summarily declared that it is because of atheism!
(January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am)Ephrium Wrote: The Logic that God promotes good deeds and checks the bad is just so strong. Perhaps because most atheists here do not understand the mind of Christians. They do not think that it is a mere theory but there is a God who wants them to do certain things(The punish ment of not doing only comes later)We understand this idealised form of Christianity, but the fact remains that people don't care. The fact remains that, despite your 'logic', the statistics are undeniable: criminal tendencies rise with the prevalence of religion.
(January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am)Ephrium Wrote: One of the base tenets of evolution if that The fittest/strongest will survive, regardless of who is 'right or wrong ' etc.Correct. But what does that have to do with anything?
(January 20, 2009 at 1:54 am)Ephrium Wrote: Do you feel safer from random possible assaults or pickpockets in the general public or in a church?Depends. Is the church a Mosque in the US? A Synagogue in Palestine? A Christian church in Egypt?
"I am a scientist... when I find evidence that my theories are wrong, it is as exciting as if the evidence proved them right." - Stargate: SG1
A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone. - Charles Darwin
A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone. - Charles Darwin