RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 3, 2015 at 6:48 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2015 at 6:53 pm by Heywood.)
(April 3, 2015 at 6:32 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:You just said that if they don't like your rules, they don't have to start a business. You want to restrict everyone's ability to do anything if it doesn't conform to your rules. This is why I hate you progressives so much and think your are just evil vermin.(April 3, 2015 at 6:21 pm)Heywood Wrote: Exchanging goods and services is how humans survive and have survived since there have been humans. It is an inalienable right. You want to restrict a persons ability survive simply because you don't like what they believe and not for any compelling interest. It would be different if gays couldn't find photographers, or bakers or were otherwise shut out of the market. But they aren't shut out of the market and they can find everything they need or want easily.No one is restricting anything, you dolt! Telling people they have to serve everyone if they serve anyone is not a restriction. I would have the same reaction if someone decided they didn't want to serve black people.
You progressives just want to control people because there simply isn't a societal injustice here that needs to be corrected.
Indiana's new law isn't going to shut anyone out of the market place. It isn't going to cause black people to be denied the ability to purchase a meal or a gay couple to have wedding cake baked for them. Life for blacks and gays is going to go on just like its been going on in the state. Nothing substantially changes because of this law. You got your panties all bound up because now some people are allowed by law, to behave in a way you don't want them to behave.
(April 3, 2015 at 6:41 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(April 3, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Heywood Wrote: What do you want to know? Some photographer doesn't want to service the gay community. So what, for every one of him there are probably 10 other photographers that will service the gay community. This isn't about making sure gays have equal access. They do. This is about controlling people.
People like DP don't like people that think homosexuality is wrong. They want to impose their will on them and make them service clientele they don't want to service. Forcing someone to service another against their will is a denial of thier freedom. It is slavery.
So you completely ignored my post trying to explain the issue to you, I see, and instead attributed something completely different to me. I'm trying to assume you're not lying right now. Just letting you know. Hope you can clear this little maneuver up for me.
But in case you do need me to repeat:
I can assure you there is no army of gay couples who are going out of their way to search for Christian bigots who they know already hate them and force them to bake their food and take their pictures at their wedding. I don't know if you've ever been married yourself but I can tell you that the last thing you want is someone who's not completely into their part of the job working for you on that most important day. You want a photographer who's enthusiastic about taking the right pictures. You want a baker who will happily bake you the best cake you've ever had. You specifically do not want someone who feels like they're forced to be there doing whatever critical component to the big day might be.
However, at the same time, you don't have the option of just "finding someone else" at the 11th hour. if the baker backs out on the contract at the last minute, your only option really is the grocery store for your wedding cake. If the photographer decides to be a no-show because of his/her precious religious beliefs, your only option is to hope everyone else brought a camera and someone in the crowd takes some decent photos.
Is this penetrating your thick skull?
This is not about "controlling people" and "slavery". This is about contracts and being responsible when making them and taking responsibility for the contracts you've already agreed to. You might think that Jesus will save your soul from Hell but he should not allow you to back out of a contract for services on this earth at the last minute because you just found out this is a gay wedding.
And if you do, your sanctimonious ass should be sued because you not only reneged on your contract at the last minute but you ruined someone's wedding day.
Clear?
If someone backs out of a contract sue them. However this law came into existence because bakers and photographers were being forced into contracts they did not want to enter. You want to force people into contracts. You want slavery. You despise this law because it takes away your power to control how people behave.