RE: Mind Over Matter?
April 5, 2015 at 6:48 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2015 at 6:56 am by emjay.)
(April 4, 2015 at 10:11 pm)bennyboy Wrote: If mind is not more than brain function, then why awareness? Why should the complex cascade of electrochemical interactions be subjectively experienced?
Given that mind is supervenient on the brain, my question is this: is it possible for a supervenient entity to flip the tables, and become the causal driver rather than a passenger who's just along for the experiential ride? In other words, is the mind, while rooted in the brain, somehow also separate from it? I'd argue this must be the case, or there would be no reason for mind to exist. I'd choose something like your option #2.
If it is something like #1 I have no idea why there would be awareness. People just call it an 'emergent property' but I think that's a bit of a cop out, but unfortunately I have nothing better to offer.
I like your flipping tables idea. But would you be suggesting truly free will - that not materially determined? (I believe in the Clockwork Universe)
(April 5, 2015 at 6:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: How about the simple solution? You are nothing more than your brain in motion. Just like there is no speed without an in tact car with burning fuel. If atheists don't like the superfluous comic book crap religion gap fills with, how about simple science and accepting our biology and evolution.
That's basically how I see it when I'm not going into detail, but occasionally - as in now - I like to look at it deeper, as pointless as it is to do so.