Mind Over Matter?

[emjay]

Not familiar with that one...but Lewis suffered from a sever case of god, for sure.  

Let me try to rephrase.

By saying:

"if it's something like 1" you've answered the question you then asked.  It may not be "something like 1"-granted....but if it is....then consciousness is explained.  What we don't know...is whether or not it's something like 1 - we do know that consciousness is not a problem...-if it is- something like 1.  Because "something like 1"....is an explanation of consciousness...however accurate or inaccurate it may be.

(I think that you're an incredible logic machine..btw.....it's just that being an incredible logic machine doesn't always translate to producing incredibly logical statements. :wink: )

-If consciousness is the visible part of a system - then yes, removing or altering the inputs matters.  If the machine is "doing consciousness" then there's no mystery as to why it's there, why it presents itself, or why we notice it.

LOL. In that case I hope it's not #1 cos that leaves little room for further intrigue - which is the fun part

Still not sure I understand your next point about the visible part of the system. I'm sorry, this must be frustrating for you

I suppose what I'm suggesting is that if consciousness is just the visible part of the system (as per #1) then any inputs are routed to the underlying hardware and processed there and their outputs presented in consciousness, but that these outputs would be the same whether the processing was done by the hardware or somehow in consciousness. But I'm not sure where unplugging the keyboard has come into it.