RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 5, 2015 at 5:50 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2015 at 5:57 pm by comet.)
(April 5, 2015 at 4:23 pm)IATIA Wrote:(April 5, 2015 at 3:25 pm)comet Wrote: Don't know. But we can start with two choices. It come from a past event(s) or it come from nothing.If it came from past events, what then was the first event? "poof there it is"? If you put causality into the picture, you have either "poof there it is" or infinite regression. What is your choice?
I am in the "something" camp. From there I go with the natural laws we have to make some guesses. They really are just guesses at this point, but I think using what we know is better than making stuff up. "poof there it is" just doesn't fit.
infinite regression implies more than we know. It implies our logic is correct for all states of the cosmos. We just don't know enough to make that claim. I am just talking about our universe anyway. But you basically have it. something or nothing. And we agree, we do get to pick.
(April 5, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Actually, even if that were not wildly inaccurate, it would be one choice between two options. Not two choices.
yeah, sure it is. I guess it could be wildly inaccurate for a philosopher tho. But they don't squat anyway. Then we would be fighting bullshit with bullshit. Which for militant atheism against theist is fine because it's about emotions and not facts at that point. So if one admits to that, I am cool with it.
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity