RE: The Philosophy of Salah/Daily Connection/Prayer
April 10, 2015 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2015 at 2:30 pm by Mystic.)
Quote:I don't get the point of prayer.
Continually thanking God and telling him he's amazing: if he requires or demands this, that's his problem. You shouldn't give gifts to expect thanks in return. Certainly not eternal thanks. If he's going to punish you for not doing it he's an egotistical psycopath.
The Quran in this connection says it's not that God asks us sustenance (ie. that he gains from our giving thanks and remembering him) but that he provides sustenance. In this connection, he being the most worthy goal, having the greatest right over us, and being the best reward, has favored us through acts of devotion towards him. He increases devotees with unseen beauty and honor, and robes them with blessings of his purity, through these acts, and favors people with knowledge of him, increase in guarding and vision of his beauty and majesty, and brings them in higher ranks through it.
Quote:Asking God to do stuff: this implies god isn't already going to do the best course of action.What if the best course of action is allowing us to pray to him, recognizing his best of his will, and asking from it, and asking for divine favour and increase, so as to have a relationship with him and having a response type of Lord, instead of distant one.
Also, God already knows what I'm thinking all the time anyway.
(April 10, 2015 at 1:45 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Your argument asserts ideas must exist therefore minds must exist. But the dependence is backwards, ideas cannot exist without minds. So you first have to show a mind that exist eternally before you can assert the idea exist eternally. It's equivalent to arguing the monetary system exist before money existed. You first need to have money exist before you can show the monetary system exist.
The following is a valid argument:
An eternal morality exists.
Morality needs a mind to exist.
Therefore an eternal mind exists.
It's a valid argument. Whether it's sound or not, depends on the first two premises being true.
But if those two premises are true, then the conclusion follows. It's not circular to conclude that an eternal mind exists based on these two premises.
