(April 9, 2015 at 8:11 pm)Lek Wrote: You're totally wrong. How do you know that it is wrong not to prevent suffering if you could?
... Did you seriously just ask me that? Are you seriously unaware of the reason? Should you even be discussing morality, if you can't figure out something like that?
I literally don't think I know how to answer that question without being insultingly simple: suffering is bad because it causes suffering, and if you are able to stop suffering without expending any effort or any form of cost, as your god is able to do, but you don't, then you have allowed an immoral thing to propagate for no reason. And in some cases we're talking about suffering that god directly causes, without intervening with free will; so what you have here is a god that causes suffering for no reason.
Now, that's dealing with a conception of morality that takes into account consequences and evidence and all that... if your morality is just based on what god wants, then what you're saying by asking that question above is that you believe in a god for whom suffering is moral. Not worth worshiping, that one.
Quote:You are providing your opinion from your limited knowledge to prove that an omnipotent God is not doing the right thing. I realize that we're discussing a God that is imaginary as far as you are concerned, but if we're assuming that he's omnipotent, then we must assume that he knows more than we do.
A god that is omnipotent has the power to do "the right thing," to accomplish the goal you're claiming he's working toward by inflicting all this suffering, without inflicting that suffering at all. If your god cannot do that, then he is not omnipotent. You're spinning off into some irrelevant thing I didn't say, but that is the point I'm making, so please try to address that in future.
Not that I find this "god knows more than you, so there!" kind of argument to be compelling; if god isn't going to offer any evidence of what he knows, then I'm certainly not obligated to assume benevolent intent. If you don't know what your god's intentions are, how on earth can you be assuming that?
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