(April 17, 2015 at 2:48 am)Heywood Wrote:(April 17, 2015 at 2:41 am)Alex K Wrote: Furthermore, the argument from physics, that Energy cannot be created . or destroyed, is not applicable to the universe as a whole, only to fields and particles within the universe. You cannot use it to argue for a creator for a universe.What is the reason this isn't applicable to the universe as a whole? Is it simply a premise necessary to get the universe started?
No, Heywood, conservation of energy is an observational fact. Within our universe, it *could* even be violated by a new type of as yet undiscovered forces or some such. It's not something that is even defined before there is a universe.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition