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Did Yahweh Set Adam Up?
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up?
(April 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(April 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm)Kitan Wrote: Your apparent error is in the comparison.  

A teacher does not state, "Don't touch that book over there" and then watches to either pass or fail the student on whether or not the book was touched.

Also, why would an omniscient god need to test anyone? 

He doesn't, not for Himself, the test and their results are for us, same with teachers testing student, they do not need the test, the student does.

GC

Huh? For us? What then were we supposed to gain from said test? Remember, Adam did not have a "sin nature" when he sinned and we wouldn't either if Yahweh had not "tested" Adam when he knew what the outcome would be.  So what was the test about? So God could show us his mercy?  In other words, the ends justifies the means.

Per your previous post, I graduated from Biola University, a 4 year Christian university where I studied under prominent Bible professors and theologians. I attended Bible teaching churches and am quite knowledgeable of the scriptures. I don't say this because I think it will mean anything to you. I know it will not, but just to let you and other readers know your assumption that I got my knowledge from Google is just that, an assumption that lowers your credibility.

I pointed out that Adam's behavior was child-like. The Bible may not say Adam was quote-unquote child-like, but it does show us his child-like behavior. That's all I said.  How clever of you to sidestep my point.

I repeat, nothing in Adams's world had ever died, so he had no real concept of death. To not hold an omnipotent, omniscient god responsible for his actions, while holding man who, in comparison,  knows nothing and can do less, responsible for things outside our control is sheer nonsense. But it is what the church and the Bible teaches.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 16, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 5:39 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 16, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 7:38 am
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by emjay - April 16, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 16, 2015 at 9:10 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 16, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by CapnAwesome - April 16, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 16, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 18, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 17, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 10:39 am
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2015 at 1:16 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 18, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 22, 2015 at 10:51 am
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 23, 2015 at 8:13 am
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 23, 2015 at 7:40 pm
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IATIA - April 23, 2015 at 8:51 pm
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 11:43 am
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