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Did Yahweh Set Adam Up?
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up?
(April 17, 2015 at 4:02 am)Rhythm Wrote: Sexual identity, the coming into age or coming into knowledge that sets one apart or at odds with ones parents and alters that relationship.  That which expels you from the  garden of your youth - provided by your father, that which expels you from innocence - that which makes you culpable?  There's an amusing rabbinical opinion that the knowledge gained was, in fact, knowledge of the law.  Before they possessed this knowledge they could not offend god, could not do wrong.  There is also a strong current of god or divine forces as capricious, callous, or cruel..why assume that the authors didn't intend this to be so?  Life can be cruel, callous....it can feel like the nameless, infinitely vast forces surrounding you are decidedly inhuman.

Excellent points. Of course, if we interpret the Fall of Man metaphorically, we must also interpret the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus metaphorically, which can be done, since everything the church teaches about Jesus can be directly traced to astrology.

As for the intentions of the authors, it's probable that we are looking at two different philosophies.  Chapter one tells us that Elohim created everything and saved man for his grand finale, but in chapter two, where we find this Fall of Man story, man is created first, "before any tree was planted." Perhaps this difference in creation accounts reflects the shift in pre and post exhileJewish theology, which can only be possible if we look at it metaphorically .
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 16, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 5:39 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 16, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by emjay - April 16, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 16, 2015 at 9:10 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 16, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by CapnAwesome - April 16, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 16, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 18, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 17, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 17, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IATIA - April 17, 2015 at 8:13 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 4:08 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 17, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 22, 2015 at 6:27 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 18, 2015 at 6:30 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 17, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 23, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Brakeman - April 23, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 23, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 17, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Polaris - April 17, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2015 at 1:16 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 18, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 22, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 23, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 23, 2015 at 5:58 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 23, 2015 at 8:13 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 24, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 18, 2015 at 3:29 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2015 at 6:43 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by emjay - April 21, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Brakeman - April 22, 2015 at 7:21 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 22, 2015 at 7:24 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 22, 2015 at 7:50 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by TubbyTubby - April 22, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 22, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 22, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 23, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 23, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 23, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 23, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 26, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 28, 2015 at 5:41 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 23, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IATIA - April 23, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 23, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 27, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 26, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 27, 2015 at 8:42 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IATIA - April 26, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 8:55 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 27, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 27, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 27, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 27, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 27, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 27, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Longhorn - April 30, 2015 at 3:41 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 30, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 30, 2015 at 5:58 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - May 1, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 27, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IAOALGIV - April 27, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IAOALGIV - April 27, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IAOALGIV - April 27, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IAOALGIV - April 27, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 27, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 28, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 27, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 28, 2015 at 5:29 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 27, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 28, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 30, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 30, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 2:01 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - May 2, 2015 at 9:05 am

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