So I'm late to the party... oh well...
Ramble mode!
Could humans have manufactured the concept of a god and then imposed that other humans just believe in its existence as a given?
What do all these questions have in common?
The assumption that you did something and then proceed to ask about that something.
Your question falls under this category, too. Too many assumptions in it:
- There is a god
- There is a creation
- The god created something
- That something is apparent
Since we like to be intellectually honest, and I'm sure you do too, let's refrain from asking questions which are clearly poisoned.
If god wants the planet Earth, that infinitesimal speck in the vastness of space, if he wants this tiny planet to be a paradise, then... why not just make it so in the first place?
Why all the wasted effort in creating the remaining near-infinite cosmos?
Why create flawed beings such as Adam and Eve and Satan... and all other humans... only to... what? have them worship that being out of all the love their bear for the being they know not that exists, but are told so by other people?!
It boggles the mind, just to think of it.
Flack gun!
Ramble mode!
(April 17, 2015 at 10:21 am)nicanica123 Wrote: Thanks for all the replies on the other thread I started. One poster recommended that maybe I start with just 1 point and go from there. The following is what rattles through my brain. Please remember that I'm not debating I'm sharing my thoughts...Sharing your thoughts under the form of questions... how odd...
(April 17, 2015 at 10:21 am)nicanica123 Wrote: The argument against god that there is no proof"against"... as if we need to be against Darth Vader to not believe that Darth exists for real...
(April 17, 2015 at 10:21 am)nicanica123 Wrote: My few thoughts on this are as follows, 1. Why would this almighty god be subjected to what a human demands as proof?Why would this almighty god demand that humans acknowledge his existence without providing them some form of evidence for such existence?
Could humans have manufactured the concept of a god and then imposed that other humans just believe in its existence as a given?
(April 17, 2015 at 10:21 am)nicanica123 Wrote: 2. Does gods creation not make him apparent?How do you beat your wife? When did you rape your daughter? Where did you plant the H-bomb that's about to go off?
What do all these questions have in common?
The assumption that you did something and then proceed to ask about that something.
Your question falls under this category, too. Too many assumptions in it:
- There is a god
- There is a creation
- The god created something
- That something is apparent
Since we like to be intellectually honest, and I'm sure you do too, let's refrain from asking questions which are clearly poisoned.
(April 17, 2015 at 10:21 am)nicanica123 Wrote: 3. If god popped up one day to make himself readily known as existing, would all people serve him any way?Perhaps... depends on how the guy would make itself known and what sort of god it turned out to be.
(April 17, 2015 at 10:21 am)nicanica123 Wrote: 4. If gods purpose as I have been taught, is that one day the earth will be a paradise like state with no evil. Back to its original Eden conditions. Proving that Satan, Adam, and Eve were wrong to reject gods sovereignty and humans are not capable of ruling themselves... how would it serve his purpose if people worshipped him out of fear of him killing them rather than from their hearts?Well... let's look at that "if", first.
If god wants the planet Earth, that infinitesimal speck in the vastness of space, if he wants this tiny planet to be a paradise, then... why not just make it so in the first place?
Why all the wasted effort in creating the remaining near-infinite cosmos?
Why create flawed beings such as Adam and Eve and Satan... and all other humans... only to... what? have them worship that being out of all the love their bear for the being they know not that exists, but are told so by other people?!
It boggles the mind, just to think of it.
(April 17, 2015 at 10:21 am)nicanica123 Wrote: I know the last one will get a lot of flack
Flack gun!
