(April 19, 2015 at 5:00 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(April 19, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There is no evil in being a skeptic. There is no devil causing me to reject your claims. There is just you defending very bad logic and looking for an excuse to cling to those claims.Sorry to be clear, what I wanted to state, was that for people who accept the Quran, not seeing the true recitation of Ulil-Amr in this instance, can only be due to dark forces, as the recitation with any degree of sincere reflection will make it obvious it's not about any rulers who can even be the worse people on earth but rather those bestowed the Divine command/authority.
"true recitation"
Same as
"Correct interpretation"
Get that from Christians and Jews too. "If you would just see it my way".
Nope, none of those books, including yours, were written by scientifically literate humans. They are books reflecting the social norms of the times in which they were written. You like Christians and Jews and even Hindus are merely stuck on pretty.
Now please understand the concept of "divine/authority" was a common motif in both polytheism and monotheism in antiquity. The Egyptians also attributed their success and fortune to the "divine". Humans back then had no clue that they were doing it and no god or gods were helping them.
Your book is the 3rd in the Abraham tradition, but not even the first monotheism in that line of Hebrew was original. Hebrews merely took the "divine/authority" from the "divine family" of the Canaanites and Yahweh was a lesser god in that "divine family" took him from a lesser god and elevated him to the only god in their new splinter religion.
We know you really want to believe, but the fact is Islam, and Christianity and Hebrew and all religions for that matter are merely inventions of humans.
