(April 18, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Godschild Wrote:(April 18, 2015 at 1:16 am)Rhythm Wrote:(April 18, 2015 at 7:02 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: No, I don't see it as a joke. Proselytizing a religion that dulls the mind, slenderizes the true Creator and teaches people to instead worship some low level regional manager who creates a world that has not the slightest resemblance to the world we live in is no joke. In fact, in the Bible God and saten ore often given credit for the same acts. If you dare me to show you, I will, but don't get mad at me. I didn't write it.
If A and E were already immortal, what was the purpose of having a tree of life that would give them what they already had? But then, if they were already mortal, why threaten them with death if they were already going to die? In my opening post, I showed that we are not talking about spiritual death, since the spirit does not return to dust. So don't try to go there.
The authors clearly weren't very deep thinkers and did not notice the paradox they were creating with this story.
Please show me the verses.
Who said the tree was there for them to eat from and gain eternal life. The story is quite clear that death wasn't a part of the creation, if death was a part of creation then the punishment of death for disobedience would have no meaning, wouldn't you say so.
GC
We know that the Tree of Life was in the garden
Genesis 2:9b
In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
And we know it was a tree Adam was allowed to eat from because Yahweh specifically said Adam could eat of any tree except the tree of Knowledge
Genesis 2:16
And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”
So again, why have a tree designed to give them immortality if they already had it. And if they didn't have it, why threaten them with death if they were already mortal?
I don't know what your purpose was in challenging me. I hope you did not make the mistake of thinking I would not be up to it. I don't speak without knowledge or put forth as facts that for which I have no documentation.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.