RE: Suppose God (christian) was proved to exist (imperically)?
April 22, 2015 at 12:25 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2015 at 12:30 pm by Simon Moon.)
(April 22, 2015 at 12:12 pm)ajarnfalang Wrote: Aren't they? What have you accomplished so far?
I'm a member of a watch forum. Someone comes in and says, hey I'm looking for a sporty watch that I can wear to work with a tie. Any suggestions?
Ok. That's a discussion with a real end. Someone gets advice. They go out and get what they need. Discussion ends. Next topic.
Where does this boloney go? God this science that. Blah blah blah.
But there is a real end.
It is a fact, that many theists have given up their irrational beliefs through this site, and others like it, from discussions like those that occur here.
Peoples beliefs don't live in a vacuum. Many of those irrational theistic beliefs lead to real world, negative actions.
Wars are started, pseudoscience is taught in public schools, planes are flown into buildings, minorities are persecuted, children die from treatable illnesses because their parents decide to pray for them instead of taking them to doctors, people blow themselves up in public places, etc, etc, all in the name of some god or another.
The real question is, why don't you believe that trying to convince people to give up their irrational beliefs, and basing their beliefs on evidence and valid/sound logic is worthwhile? Don't you think that living in a world where more and more people were rational would be a better place?
Quote:You're challenging what ideas? And for what reason? I don't get what you're talking about.
Irrational beliefs that lead to negative actions and outcomes.
In the attempt to convince people to be rational.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
