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Dear Theists....Why?
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
Hey,

I appreciate the question posed, as I always want to try to build bridges between different schools of belief.

As a believer (but not, and here is where I take the wind out of the sails of self-ritcheousness, affiliated with any religion. To repeat, if I am the only one, then there is a portion of the population that believe or have faith, but either ignore or openly shun OR. So all the Moses isn't real shit has no affect on me. I can out argue your point there... Or course MOses could not have existed, the flaw is that the theology is not meant to be interpreted as a liturgical nonfiction. Moses is meant to be archtypical, and you are supposed to have a relationship with "him", but the flaw that the Bible represents a factual history is known (to me), so to disprove it says very, very little. When you say Moses could not have existed (or jesus could not have pulled a rabbit froma hat, or whatever he did), I can only say "So? We know that."

Another approach would e that you are proving the people who have misunderstood xtianity wrong. Congratulations, I think.

Why do i believe? I assure you for the same reasons as yourself. I believe what I believe because it is the only thing that makes sense to me. The only way this existence and experience I have found myself in could be is to incluse the things I beleive in, that you likely do not. I try to see all the facts, I have been a long tern truth seeker, and the facts and evidence (if those are the words-du-jour) point me to belief in a higher power, among other things.

It has nothing to do with dismissing evidence, actually it feels like a journey of fact.

If I may retort, why do you guys, or you yourself, dis-believe? Why do you choose to believe that this world, this universe, this experience, these mysteries, the micro verse, all that we know now, is just random. Big bang, first cause, expanding universe... To me believing in atheism is to scream (at differing volumes) 'I believe in the million monkey paradox, taken to an illogical extreme'. Why, pray tell, do you believe this is all random? Is it because the bible is stupid, because a lot of us figured that out and moved on years ago. I have come to kind of appreciate it for what it is...

Anyways, off to work. I am trying to start my own farming business, and you have to work a lot of hours and I haven't gotten paid yet...

Love and respect of differences,
-Pip
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Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 6:52 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 8:54 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 7:10 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by theVOID - September 9, 2010 at 7:53 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 9, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by theVOID - September 9, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 9, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 8:51 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 12:17 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:00 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:23 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:20 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 10, 2010 at 1:08 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:21 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:29 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:27 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:32 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:36 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:38 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:41 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:42 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:46 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:52 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 9, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 10:42 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 10, 2010 at 7:20 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 1:28 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 10, 2010 at 1:42 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 1:57 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 2:29 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DeistPaladin - September 10, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 2:38 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 11:39 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 10, 2010 at 3:32 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 6:43 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DeistPaladin - September 10, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 10, 2010 at 8:32 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 10, 2010 at 8:17 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by RachelSkates - September 10, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 10, 2010 at 6:58 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 9:56 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DeistPaladin - September 10, 2010 at 10:47 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 12:10 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 11, 2010 at 2:20 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 3:40 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DoodleBag - September 11, 2010 at 8:10 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 8:15 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:20 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Ace Otana - September 11, 2010 at 8:57 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Entropist - September 11, 2010 at 9:00 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Ace Otana - September 11, 2010 at 9:08 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:33 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 8:39 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 10:33 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 1:35 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DoodleBag - September 11, 2010 at 1:49 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Ace Otana - September 12, 2010 at 8:00 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 1:47 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 1:52 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 1:50 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 2:02 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 2:05 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 2:16 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Skipper - September 11, 2010 at 7:05 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 7:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 2:21 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 2:25 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 7:26 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 11, 2010 at 7:37 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 7:58 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:01 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:06 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:23 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:50 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:55 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:06 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:10 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:12 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:15 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:26 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:30 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:37 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by tackattack - September 11, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 10:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 12, 2010 at 2:25 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 12, 2010 at 4:15 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 12, 2010 at 8:06 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Skipper - September 12, 2010 at 9:50 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 13, 2010 at 12:48 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Skipper - September 13, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 13, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 14, 2010 at 12:15 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 14, 2010 at 3:13 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 14, 2010 at 5:00 am

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