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Dear Theists....Why?
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
(September 10, 2010 at 8:32 am)Pippy Wrote: If I may retort, why do you guys, or you yourself, dis-believe? Why do you choose to believe that this world, this universe, this experience, these mysteries, the micro verse, all that we know now, is just random. Big bang, first cause, expanding universe... To me believing in atheism is to scream (at differing volumes) 'I believe in the million monkey paradox, taken to an illogical extreme'. Why, pray tell, do you believe this is all random? Is it because the bible is stupid, because a lot of us figured that out and moved on years ago. I have come to kind of appreciate it for what it is...

It isn't a belief that it's all random. Probabilities are very small, but we've got trillions and trillions of chances, the odds are actually great that intelligent life would evolve in at least one place given what we know about the conditions needed for life. The complicated nature of the universe fits itself together in elegant symmetries and patterns that are explained and derived through a completely non-random, complex, elegant evolutionary process.

It's just a disbelief that a super-powerful, supernatural, force outside explanation and operating in ways that violate the principles of the universe is necessary for life to exist. If the evidence said that one did, and atheists were openly shunning factual, empirical evidence, then you'd have a stronger case. It's a belief in the evidence around us, without needing an assumed God for all the questions that haven't been reasoned out yet.

The universe is wondrous, and the explanations behind them have been driven by an underlying search for truth. The cause of the big bang and a concrete, evidence founded explanation of the spacetime experience prior to it will no doubt be no less incredible! If God exists we'll all figure it out when we die, until then, there is absolutely no observable or rational reason for belief.
My religion is the understanding of my world. My god is the energy that underlies it all. My worship is my constant endeavor to unravel the mysteries of my religion. Thinking
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Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 6:52 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 8:54 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 7:10 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by theVOID - September 9, 2010 at 7:53 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 9, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by theVOID - September 9, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 9, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 8:51 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 12:17 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:00 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:23 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:20 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 10, 2010 at 1:08 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 9:21 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:29 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:27 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:32 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:36 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:38 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:41 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:42 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 9, 2010 at 9:46 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 9, 2010 at 9:52 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 9, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 9, 2010 at 10:42 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 10, 2010 at 7:20 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 1:28 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 10, 2010 at 1:42 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 1:57 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 2:29 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DeistPaladin - September 10, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 2:38 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 11:39 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 10, 2010 at 3:32 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 10, 2010 at 6:43 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DeistPaladin - September 10, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 10, 2010 at 8:32 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by ABierman1986 - September 10, 2010 at 8:17 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by RachelSkates - September 10, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 10, 2010 at 6:58 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 9:56 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DeistPaladin - September 10, 2010 at 10:47 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 12:10 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 11, 2010 at 2:20 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 3:40 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DoodleBag - September 11, 2010 at 8:10 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 8:15 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:20 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Ace Otana - September 11, 2010 at 8:57 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Entropist - September 11, 2010 at 9:00 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Ace Otana - September 11, 2010 at 9:08 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:33 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 8:39 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 10:33 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 1:35 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by DoodleBag - September 11, 2010 at 1:49 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Ace Otana - September 12, 2010 at 8:00 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 1:47 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 1:52 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 1:50 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 2:02 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 2:05 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 2:16 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Skipper - September 11, 2010 at 7:05 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 7:59 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 2:21 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 2:25 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 7:26 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 11, 2010 at 7:37 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 7:58 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:01 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:06 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:23 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:50 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:55 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:06 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:10 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:12 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:15 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:26 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 9:30 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 9:37 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by tackattack - September 11, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 10:44 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 12, 2010 at 2:25 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 12, 2010 at 4:15 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 12, 2010 at 8:06 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Skipper - September 12, 2010 at 9:50 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 13, 2010 at 12:48 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Skipper - September 13, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Minimalist - September 13, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 14, 2010 at 12:15 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by Pippy - September 14, 2010 at 3:13 am
RE: Dear Theists....Why? - by padraic - September 14, 2010 at 5:00 am

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