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The Human Eye: A Double Standard?
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RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard?
(April 28, 2015 at 11:04 am)Pyrrho Wrote:
(April 28, 2015 at 10:04 am)Alex K Wrote: Original sin. Before the fall, our eyes were perfect.

I see you have spent too much time around Christians.

However, that is irrelevant to the original argument.  It is the human eye, as it presently exists, that is supposedly only to be explained by reference to God.

And for the original argument, that the human eye must have had a designer:  in that case, the designer must have been an incompetent buffoon.  If you consider all of the people who need glasses, or who get corrective surgery, one finds that the failure rate for the human eye is near 100%.  That indicates a poor design, and so we have an incompetent designer who designed the eye.  Indeed, humans are capable of making artificial eyes that are, in many respects, superior to a human eye, and so it would seem that humans must be superior to God.

Let me apologize to you all for not making my question clear to begin with. What I am saying is that theists have this double standard where they say because the eye is so complex so it has to have had a designer. On the other hand, if you ask them where god came from they dismiss the question quite flippantly, saying god needed no designer. So what I'm asking does that mean the eye is more complex than god?

BTW their eyes were actually better after the fall. Before that they walked around butt naked and didn't even know it. Dayum. I'm legally blind and know when I'm naked. But that's another thread. Thank you and 30.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

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The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Rhondazvous - April 28, 2015 at 9:01 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Longhorn - April 28, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by vorlon13 - April 28, 2015 at 9:09 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by pocaracas - April 28, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by polar bear - April 28, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by vorlon13 - April 28, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Alex K - April 28, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by pocaracas - April 28, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Alex K - April 28, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by pocaracas - April 28, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Alex K - April 28, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by pocaracas - April 28, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 28, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by pocaracas - April 28, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 28, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by pocaracas - April 28, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Alex K - April 28, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by pocaracas - April 28, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 28, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 28, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Rhondazvous - April 28, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 28, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Rhondazvous - April 28, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Darkstar - April 28, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by TheRealJoeFish - April 28, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Lek - April 28, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Thumpalumpacus - April 30, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Minimalist - April 28, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Alex K - April 28, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by robvalue - April 28, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Exian - April 28, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by robvalue - April 28, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by robvalue - April 28, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Alex K - April 28, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by robvalue - April 28, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Minimalist - April 28, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 3:03 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by AFTT47 - April 30, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 9:27 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Ravenshire - April 30, 2015 at 11:52 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Mudhammam - May 1, 2015 at 1:26 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Cato - May 1, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Ravenshire - April 30, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Darkstar - April 30, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Iroscato - April 30, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Alex K - April 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Minimalist - April 30, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Iroscato - April 30, 2015 at 6:57 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Mudhammam - April 30, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Anomalocaris - April 30, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Thumpalumpacus - April 30, 2015 at 10:32 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Chas - May 1, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Razzle - April 30, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by SteelCurtain - April 30, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Iroscato - April 30, 2015 at 6:26 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Iroscato - April 30, 2015 at 6:51 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Chas - May 1, 2015 at 5:57 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Iroscato - April 30, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Minimalist - April 30, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Iroscato - April 30, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Minimalist - April 30, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Minimalist - April 30, 2015 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Mudhammam - May 2, 2015 at 4:55 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by Iroscato - May 1, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by KevinM1 - May 1, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: The Human Eye: A Double Standard? - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 7:06 am

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