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(May 1, 2015 at 1:12 pm)wallym Wrote: I'm saying the 'word' apple is a physical thing in the brain in the same way we can point at it in a dictionary, or more relevant, a computer.[/i]The marks in a dictionary are signs representative of concepts, not the concepts themselves.No, you do in fact love your grandma, although I don’t doubt that the brain mediates between your subjective experiences and the real person. Saying that we ‘just’ interact with perceptions apart from the objects of perception is a bit like saying that a painter is just interacting with the brush he holds and not the canvas on which he applies paint. Just because you are interacting with something about which you lack complete unmediated understanding of a thing doesn’t mean the thing isn’t there. I don’t see that as a problem in the way that some philosophers do.
[quote='wallym' pid='933199' dateline='1430500320'] … we don't love our grandma, we love the perception of our grandma stored in our brain… I don't love a sunset, I love image created in my brain... are we just interacting with the perception of reality created in our brains?
(May 1, 2015 at 1:12 pm)wallym Wrote: Meaning is like an ant colony. No individual ant contains the instructions for building the ant nest, but the interaction of all the mindless ants results in a nest.Given her admiration for Dennett, I will go out on a limb and say that Jörmungandr would probably agree with that analogy. It supports her notion that you won’t find anything ‘in there’.