(September 13, 2010 at 1:29 am)Godschild Wrote: I've gone to three different translations ( The New American Standard, NIV and English Standard Version ) And none of them use the words I've put in bold above.
1. I used the KJV, the darling of some fundy Christians.
2. Re-read the ones you used. They DO say "in the flesh".
Quote:This faith, belief or what ever you might call it is meant for those who embraced it not for the half hearted skeptic.
Faith isn't necessary when speaking of obvious and verifiable reality. Frankly, John shouldn't have even needed to discuss them at all. You don't spend a lot of time rebuking crazy people. If he did, he should have been expected to just dismiss them as crazy. Appeals to faith is a last resort for people who have no evidence.
Quote:John was not condemning christians
Then why call them false prophets and antichrists instead of "unbelievers" or some such?
Quote:Why try to find a tomb that is not occupied with Jesus body.
Because the empty tomb is used as evidence, shaky as that "evidence" may be.
Quote:Mary arrived in the morningJohn 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark
Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Quote:The stone was rolled away before she arrived.Matthew 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Quote:There were two angels.Mark 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
Quote:Christ assent to Heaven was 40 days later.Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
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