(May 1, 2015 at 11:34 am)abaris Wrote:(May 1, 2015 at 10:24 am)Brian37 Wrote: "If a man lies with a man" I do think is in there and homophobia was a widespread social norm in the monotheism of antiquity.
Did it ever occur to you that these religions picked up on preexisting prejudices? That's what these religions are all about, if you strip them from their woo. A mirror of society at a particular place at a particular point in time. Homophobia probably originated way back when procreation was an absolute necessity to keep the tribe from dying out.
Seriously, not every wayward turd on the street is about religion.
Of course that is the case, just like other memes of divine=success and gender rolls. This is why no religion should be given a pedestal, no man who has ever started one, no group who has ever started one, in antiquity or now, magically pops out of dirt out of nothing. All religions start from influences of that which was prior or surrounding or a combo of both.
Not that all atheists are homophobes but look long and hard enough you certainly will find some.
Our species ability to create groups and based those groups on bad claims and bad ideas is a result of our species flawed perceptions. And nothing any individual can do or say can come out of nothing, something has to be communicated to that individual before they communicate with others to spread their ideas.