RE: Evolution Theory - please show the proofs
September 13, 2010 at 3:33 pm
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2010 at 3:34 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(September 13, 2010 at 11:40 am)Paul the Human Wrote: Insects are going to be upset to discover that they are not the most successful and/or dominant creatures on this planet.Slight nitpick (though overall, I agree with you, but I wouldn't say that insects are the dominant species over humans... I'll explain...):
Actually, I can agree that in some areas, humans are the most successful and dominant species on earth, but certainly not in all ways. We are (sans technology and industry) one of the most ill-equipped species for survival on this planet in many ways. If you look closely at other species, you might find that they have evolved for success in their environments in utterly amazing ways. Look at all the insect, plant, and animal species that have evolved symbiotic relationships that allow each of them to flourish in a way humanity could never dream of. How are we more successfully evolved than they are?
Insects are not a single species in the same way that humans are. They're an entire class of species - like mammals, reptiles, and so on. So if you're going to compare insects to anything like humans, you'd have to compare them to mammals as a whole unless you pick a particular species of insect - like honeybees, carpenter ants, or termites, all particularly successful species of insect.
I personally rate humans as being the most successful species on the planet partly because humans were originally adapted to live in the savannahas and jungles of africa to live anywhere on earth in addition to preparing to live outside of the planet's biosphere within the next few generations. Our position on our particular food chain within recorded history (i.e. the past few thousand years) has always been #1 and our capability of causing whatever mass extinction we want (many unfortunate species have been hunted or poached to extinction) as well as our capability to actually promote certain species over others (we recently may have just saved bees from the problem that's been plaguing them in recent years.)
Some single species of insects own entire swaths of land over the world, but none seem to cover all of the above bases. Still, certain species are successful for different reasons often despite that fact, so I suppose you can call it different catagories of the same kind of success.
Plus, if we count entire classifications of creatures, bacteria definately have both humans and insects beat - dominating the air, land, and sea - they've certainly the capability of evolving to be capable of mass extinction of entire species or promoting the health of an entire species (such as by developing a symbiosis) and recent theories have allowed for the possibility that bacteria are capable of interstellar travel by simply being in or on a rock and surviving the vast distance if the planet (or whatever) they developed on is blown out into space somehow to another planet (just like how that famous martian rock got to earth to be discovered in antartica.)
Plankton could even be considered a dominant species in the sense that they cover much if not all the ocean (far more area than all land masses) and they form the base of the food chain for much if not the whole ocean. I mean, you're pretty important to the extent that if you die off somehow (say, global warming destroys the ozone layer) then suddently that would result in the deaths of many, many oceangoing species and even certain land species that depend on seafood for sustinence.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
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Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan