Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?

[Little Rik]

It can really be a very knotty question to deal with.

Only if you don't deal with it honestly.  Consider your example of emotions.  We know emotions exist because we experience them and we see others experience them and react in similar ways, ways we understand.  We can judge the intensity of emotions and we can even determine when a person is acting too emotional or suppressing emotion.  People even know how to manipulate the emotions of others, or feign emotion by the way they act.  We have a number of ways to determine that emotions exist.

Emotions, therefore, do not exist in some dimension that we cannot possibly experience, because we experience them all the time.  Hell, science is researching emotions in order to better understand them.  That is completely different from this spiritual or metaphysical dimension you claim is impossible to detect, yet for which you have many descriptions and explanations and information, and for which other people have completely different descriptions, explanations and information.

My guess is that this is where you'll try to go off on a tangent using exceptions to the rule regarding expression of emotions.  But that won't change the point I just made.  You cannot use emotions as an example of something undetectable that exists.  Same with thoughts and ideas, so let's skip those as well and see if we can't address the obvious problem with proving the undetectable.

It is true that it is undetectable but undetectable by physical science only.
Obvious.
How can physical science detect what is outside his competence?
It would be like if you try to see and experience what is outside a prison
from inside a prison.
Somebody could tell you what is outside but the feeling is not the same as to 
be outside. 

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i have no other choice than to say i believe considering that i am talking to people who only understand something
if they can see it in a physical-mental way.
Why should be a.......crackpot idea .....when the feeling is so strong?

The problem for you is that many of those here can understand things in more than a physical-mental way.  Many of the people here were 'spiritual' before they became atheists.  You err in presuming that because someone is committed to a physical-mental explanation of the world that they cannot understand in your way.They can, but they have realized the fallaciousness of depending on that.  Around the world there are many varieties of Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Taoist and many religions that I can't even name.  Perhaps some are just practicing 'religion', but in those are also people who are spiritual, and they feel those same intense feelings about their particular beliefs.  Strong feelings can be wrong.  They can't all be right about their 'chosen' spirituality.  But you and they can all be wrong.

I was a Hindu until earlier this year so don't presume that I can't think "beyond the physical-mental" — I can — and so can many others here.  We've just come to realize that depending on 'feelings' and 'spiritual intuitions' just leads nowhere.  There is no check on the things you will believe because of 'feelings'.  You can see that from the variety of spiritual practitioners all claiming to have found "the true intuitional science."  It's a given that all but one group of you is likely wrong.  What besides 'feelings' do you depend upon to tell you that you are the one who is right?

Sorry but your analysis doesn't take in consideration a simple fact.
Suppose i want to succeed in something but after a while i just give up because
i find the road to success too hard and then i tell you that that thing that i try to
succeed is not good.
Does my judgment make any sense?
Of course it doesn't.
I just don't render justice to the thing that i try to reach.
It happen to me years ago when i try to become good in martial arts.
After several moth of practice i just gave up.
It involve a lot of hard work and i didn't feel like continue.
I really think that it would be quite stupid to go around and say that 
Aikido is rubbish when in fact is very very good.
The same goes for your judgement.
People give up well before they reach the goal and then say that they gave up because there was no juice in it.
It just doesn't make sense.