RE: Climate change
May 12, 2015 at 2:41 am
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 2:55 am by robvalue.)
Sure, I'm always happy to back up what I say with logic. What did I say that you find illogical?
The state of the world is a very complex thing. Some things get better, some get worse. To make an overall judgement, it really depends what weight you put on particular factors. I think general standard of living has gone up, but the amount of damage we're doing to the planet has also gone up. Overall I think we're a blight to the planet, but lucky for you guys that's not my call to make.
Sure, humans can be very greedy and power hungry. I don't think that's anything new, there's just more ways for people to exercise those qualities now. However, I think people in civilised countries are much more free to live their lives how they want without being overtly controlled, and society looks after its less fortunate members better. I'm not in any way saying things are perfect in either regard, far from it, but better I think than in even recent history.
Medical knowledge plays a huge part too. If I was born 100 years ago, I dread to think what would have happened to me. I have two chronic conditions, one of which can't be treated even now, plus depression. My life would be short and very painful, or slightly longer, very painful and I'd go insane.
Animal welfare still has a long way to go (and now Cameron wants to make it worse) but is still better than it has been, in many countries.
The state of the world is a very complex thing. Some things get better, some get worse. To make an overall judgement, it really depends what weight you put on particular factors. I think general standard of living has gone up, but the amount of damage we're doing to the planet has also gone up. Overall I think we're a blight to the planet, but lucky for you guys that's not my call to make.
Sure, humans can be very greedy and power hungry. I don't think that's anything new, there's just more ways for people to exercise those qualities now. However, I think people in civilised countries are much more free to live their lives how they want without being overtly controlled, and society looks after its less fortunate members better. I'm not in any way saying things are perfect in either regard, far from it, but better I think than in even recent history.
Medical knowledge plays a huge part too. If I was born 100 years ago, I dread to think what would have happened to me. I have two chronic conditions, one of which can't be treated even now, plus depression. My life would be short and very painful, or slightly longer, very painful and I'd go insane.
Animal welfare still has a long way to go (and now Cameron wants to make it worse) but is still better than it has been, in many countries.
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