Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?

[Little Rik]

You tell me one single thing outside the physical world that physical science has ever find out with solid evidence and i will cover you with 24 carat gold. 
Physically speaking we got all sort of limitation because this universe is finite in nature so this type of science can only find answers related to this physical world.
As i said before to go outside these limitations you need a different type of science. 

You are going in circles.  We have been through this before.  You speak of a "science" that cannot be researched, tested, compared, or verified, by your own definition.  Your science is the science of nonsense.  Anyone can make any claims about it, backed by "feelings" and "intuition."  No claims regarding your science can be proved or disproved, and therefore all claims regarding it are valid.  This is the old theist ploy: as science discovers more and learns more and finds no gods or spirits, you find deeper and deeper holes to hide them in.  Having run out of hiding places in the physical world, you make up a whole new dimension in which to hide your gods.  Poor, poor gods, being grabbed roughly by the arm and dragged from one gap to another.  I'm sure that if you'd stop shoving them around they'd be happy to stop and say hi.

You are not correct Ton.
This science can be experienced anytime by anyone.
The only problem is that you got to be positive.
I remember when i try to learn how to swim.
I just could not believe that i would stay afloat if i let myself go where i couldn't touch.
This despite i saw with my eyes that so many people around me swim very well.
But at the end i let myself go and i swam.
I overcome my fear and i succeed.
Intuitional science follow similar pattern.
To most people it sound like bullshit because their grip with the material world is too strong.
It is only when you realize that the world of matter take you nowhere that you are ready to try
the world of pure consciousness.
But of course if you haven't yet reach this stage you are not ready to let yourself go
and obviously you will keep on thinking that it doesn't make any sense to try. 

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The fact that the universe is very very big doesn't mean that it is infinite.

Nor does it mean that it is not.  Science (the of theology) suggests, through empirical observation, that the universe may well be infinite in nature.

The fact is that this universe is made of matter and matter can not be superior to pure consciousness.

Consciousness is a product of matter, not the creator of matter.  So yes, matter is superior to consciousness.

Let us say that none of us can prove whether the universe is finite or not or that consciousness is a product of the brain or the other way around.
Let us instead talk about what make sense and what doesn't.
Man (man and woman) can control the five elements that make up the universe (matter, water, light, air and space) so from this we can deduce that
the universe is not superior to man and therefore is limited in nature.
Now the next question arise.
Can something limited be infinite?
Think about, and think seriously so you will not come up with the usual bullshit.
Now the next question.
Is consciousness a product of matter or the other way around?
Let us see.
Do you tell your car where to go or the car dictate you where to go?
Can the matter dictate you what to do or you decide what to do.
Think about it mate and then think again before you come up with more pepperoni.