My former Pastor: "You're not accountable to anyone."...

[krazedkat]

People who believe that morality can only exist with belief in punishment as a deterrent scare me. Because what they are really saying is that they themself would go nuts if they didn't believe in an external observer.

I am thinking that it cannot be called morality if something good is only done under threat of pain or harm.

Well said. No one suggest that after WWII the nazis were moral for HAVING to close the camps.