RE: My follow up to my other thread...
May 24, 2015 at 12:52 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2015 at 12:58 pm by Won2blv.)
(May 24, 2015 at 3:13 am)robvalue Wrote: That's called the tu quoque fallacy. It doesn't make religion any less ridiculous because atheists sometimes fall foul of logical fallacies or emotional reasoning, especially in seperate discussions. Most atheists don't claim to be infallible. If an argument is invalid, then feel free to address it specifically.
It's a common response to criticism, which is worthwhile mentally training yourself out of. It's better to first address the argument at hand, and then later move on to any recipricating arguments if you feel it's necessary. (This is advice for everyone! My first thought when I'm criticised in real life is often to tu quoque, and I have learnt to mentally cross it out as a fallacy. It seems to be some sort of natural defence mechanism.)
I am not committing any fallacy because I am not asserting any position. Or even claiming that those atheist that I find irritating are wrong. I do believe that the tu quoque fallacy is another one commonly used on these forums. How often I have read that christians are the biggest perpetrators of "unchristian" acts. Or that atheists are more moral of people. It just usually doesn't have anything to do with a discussion or debate. And I have addressed many about their arguments but it seem like they have one stock answer that they just rearrange the words. Not you of course
(May 24, 2015 at 10:03 am)comet Wrote:silly thiest ...
Have you seen my religious views? I don't claim to be a theist. I am searching for truth and my gut says that I am probably just an atheist at this point.
(May 24, 2015 at 6:56 am)Alex K Wrote: So the Amazing Atheist is an asshole and Richard Dawkins sometimes shows strong tendencies in that direction. I knew that already. So some people are annoying. What on earth is your point?
My point is that any man/woman can admit they're fallible... well almost any man... but IMO its a little bit harder when you're actually called out on it in real time. I incorrectly thought starting a thread on this subject could lead to a discussion on it but instead it was just taken defensively.
