Quote: Two what does this new list of things have to do with God not answering your "prayer"/petitions? Or is this another red herring attempt?
It has to do with you saying how I don’t have the intelligence enough to understand the wisdom of this book. So, I was giving you some examples to maybe change your mind about the wisdom in this moronic book, but you enjoy just brushing off the insane things written in it. Somehow, it rings true to you, that this is the word of god.
Quote:Didn't we do this all once before? You throw out random verses from a concordance search and then I cut and paste the whole contextual verse beside what you said, to put the orginal biblical spin back on the verse you took out of context?
Yes we did, and you completely dodged what it says in all of those verses, even with the verses ‘in context’.
Quote:Mark 11:22 Jesus answered, “Have faith in God. 23 The truth is, you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, mountain, fall into the sea.’ And if you have no doubts in your mind and believe that what you say will happen, then God will do it for you. 24 So I tell you to ask for what you want in prayer. And if you believe that you have received those things, then they will be yours.
JUST Like Last Time (post #11)
In Context Jesus is telling the Deciples more over specifically He is speaking directly to Peter, and not to you or anyone else. Even so, Jesus is directly speaking about moving Mountains of doubt that was keeping peter from being who he needed to be. Jesus gave Peter a way to address his doubt. While directed at Peter this still can apply to us.
You are strengthening my argument. He’s saying that if you have faith in god, you will be able to do anything. Yes, he is speaking to Peter, and Yes this applies to us, if you want to listen to Jesus’s words. Thanks.
Quote:Maybe read the passage above with a fresh perspective and pay close attention to the embolden parts..
Ok, I read your whole Luke passage you wanted me to read, as I did before making my original post. He says: “But he will surely get up to give you what you need if you continue to ask.” This is just untrue again. If you keep asking someone for something, they don’t always eventually end up giving it to you. The next sentence is saying: continue to ask god, and he will give it to you. Not, continue to ask the man in the house for more bread, and he will give it to you. Either way, they’re both false. You’re strengthening my argument again.
Quote:Since you seem bent on just repeating what you already said I will do the same here as well:
That’s because you continue to dodge the quotes I provided you with, and tell me that I haven’t read it in context. You want to give the whole verse ‘in context’, as if I hadn’t read it.
Quote:It's not a theory sport. Jesus in Luke 11 starting at verse 1 teaches us one singular way to pray. If you go outside that example then know you are petitioning God for stuff, and no longer praying. Paul again teaches this in several different places as well.
And again, you ignore the verses, you point to some other verse as your explanation. That’s called being dishonest. When you can’t give a straight answer to almost anything that I Have pointed out, and you have to point to something else as your answer, that should indicate to you that something is wrong in the bible. Then you point to Paul’s teachings. Again, you have something you prefer not to answer, and again you point elsewhere.
Quote:It's not a theory sport.
You're right. It's a dishonest interpretation. Must I quote what jesus says again and again?
Quote:Jesus in Luke 11 starting at verse 1 teaches us one singular way to pray
Completely incorrect again. I gave you quotes of what Jesus had said about ASKING for something in prayer, and AGAIN you dodged it.
Quote:Because I do not agree with you on what prayer is? Show me in the bible sport.
Your answer, this time, isn’t pointing elsewhere, it’s just a laughter emoticon. I showed you in the bible already when Jesus said, that if you ASK for anything in prayer, it will be given to you, but again you are incapable of comprehending something so simple.
Quote:Do you mean what you highlighted and then repeated back to me?
I’m done doing that, don’t worry. You don’t seem to understand it, so I give up.
I ask you this: Why would jesus use the words ASK, when referring to prayer? You answer me with: “The answer is Luke 11”. Yes, the Lord’s Prayer. So, Jesus says to pray using the Lord’s Prayer, and in the multiple other verses you dodged, he indicates that prayer is also asking of things that you want, and that he will answer them.
I’m done responding to you, because you are AMAZINGLY DISHONEST. You can’t seem to grasp, that the bible is full of contradictions, inaccurate material, and fairy tales. Then, when I give you examples of them, you accuse me of using fallacies. You can take your question dodging, your dishonesty, and laughter emoticons to some other thread, because I am done wasting my time with you on this thread. You are incapable of having an intelligent, and honest conversation.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
