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IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....

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RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....

May 31, 2015 at 2:00 pm

(May 31, 2015 at 1:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: ... will you unconditionally accept Him as your God?

I always get stuck on the Cartesian Demon issue.
Unless He gives me powers to discern that He is not yanking my chain (e.g. powers equivalent or greater than His own) I have no way to be sure that He is who He says He is.
If He does grant such powers, I'd have to admit He existed, but there would be no reason to accept Him as master because I'd be on the same level or greater and it would be just as appropriate for Him to accept Me as topGod.
This would be a mistake for Him because I would immediately and effectively hold Him responsible for being such an asswipe in the past.

So the answer is 'No' unless he makes me.

So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh

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IF in the end, you find that God does exist .... - by ronedee - May 31, 2015 at 1:38 pm

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RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist .... - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2015 at 1:49 pm

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RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist .... - by Alex K - May 31, 2015 at 1:55 pm

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