(May 31, 2015 at 1:00 pm)abaris Wrote:(May 31, 2015 at 12:39 pm)paulpablo Wrote: How can you say that the realities you presented don't make it into the media when the links you posted were from 4 different online distributors of media, some of them who are publishers of newspapers and each of them have thousands and thousands of readers?
Well, do you get these figures from the mainstream networks when turning on you tv?
I happened to watch the Breijvik attack unfold live on the German news and event channel Phoenix. When the bomb exploded, the first thing they did was to call an expert on islamic terror into the studio, while I was there thinking, why the hell would Islamists attack Oslo of all places?
That should give you the right impression of how the mainstream media goes about their coverage.
The links you gave showing the information that you said isn't covered by the mainstream media are publishers of the mainstream media.
The metro is the 4th largest British newspaper and you showed the link from its website which is viewed by millions, in England where I live it's given out for free on public transport so when I used to catch the bus I used to read it all the time. I don't know how big the independent is but I've heard of it and I don't often read newspapers.
And as for the realities presented by these websites they don't really make a difference to how I personally view Islamic terrorism for many reasons.
First of all it's just a crude pie chart, it doesn't show the severity of any of the terrorist attacks, the casualties, who was injured or killed. They also don't show the amount of sympathy and support each group gets from other people within that group.
The pie chart only shows how many terrorist activities were taken out by each group, that's a poor indicator of which group to be most afraid of. If people were to use this as an indicator of who to mostly be afraid of then environmental activists and animal rights activists would be one of the scariest groups on there. But they mainly set fire to housing developments and various tactics like that to prevent the cutting down of trees and things like that.
If the pie charts showed the deaths of people resulting from different terrorist groups then those would be interesting figures to see.
Another thing that a pie chart can't possibly show is how crude and attention grabbing the acts of terrorism are. You can't really blame the media for reporting more on Islamic terrorism when the acts of terrorism are designed specifically to attract media attention and to show off the acts of violence, for example putting heads on spikes, chopping down a guy in broad daylight in the center of London with machetes while waving blood stained hands at the camera talking about the quran, flying two planes into two separate buildings, that's always going to get someone's attention.
Also not mentioned in the pie charts is how sympathetic other members of each group are towards the terrorism. Now according to the pie chart the group responsible for the most terrorism is latinos. From my personal experience which I suppose might not count for much, I've been going on latino chatrooms for months and months when I was trying to learn Spanish, I never heard anyone expressing severe hatred for another nation, never heard anyone being sympathetic towards any terrorists or anything like that.
Now compare that to when I joined Islamic forums for a few days and it wasn't hard to find people on there who hate China, hate Russia, hate America. There were many people quoting bin laden on there and his views on Jewish people, people who saw the meteor in Russia as a sign from god, people who would have pictures of the planes going into the twin towers as their avatar.
I don't know what it's like in America but in the UK we also have a number of people actually coming from here to go to join ISIS.
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