(September 23, 2010 at 9:40 pm)solja247 Wrote: This universe is finely tuned for life, for stars, for black holes, for Hydrogen, for galaxies, for planets etc.There is no evidence of any design as such that couldn't be explained with empirical evidence for a naturalistic explaination.
(September 23, 2010 at 9:40 pm)solja247 Wrote: How did it arise? was it aliens?That is an excellent question. It's still a very open question for physicists and astronomers around the world.
The religious answer, however, I can guarentee, is as good as any that I can make up right now.
(September 23, 2010 at 9:40 pm)solja247 Wrote: I didnt get that from Dawkins, bit if he was trying to disprove the God hypothesis, by talking about a theistic God, it really begs the question, 'Should he be an atheist apologetist?' If he cant make the difference between a Deistic God and a Theistic God.I'm not aware that Dawkins sees a difference between any god of any kind. I believe he's quite expressly stated that he does not believe in any god or that any god had anything to do with the universe or life.
And no, it doesn't 'beg the question.' That's a fallacy - one of that name, to that fact.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
