RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
June 4, 2015 at 11:12 am
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2015 at 11:14 am by Angrboda.)
(June 3, 2015 at 5:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: The brain is not a car of course but nevertheless is a vehicle.
A vehicle that carry a passenger.
Do you have any actual evidence that consciousness is the passenger rather than the vehicle? (Aside from NDEs, see below, and unverified claims about piercing rituals.)
(June 3, 2015 at 5:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: The atheistic idea that the consciousness mind is a product of the brain will
have sooner or later be smashed in pieces.
It's fine to speculate, just as I can speculate that it will not. Do you have any reason, besides sheer belief, that you think it will be?
(June 3, 2015 at 5:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: The human being build up the vehicle not the other way around.
The brain is made of matter and the matter can not possibly build up the consciousness mind.
Now you're just engaging in an argument from ignorance. How do you know that it "can not possibly" build up the conscious mind. Try answering without resorting to vapid analogies about cars and such.
(June 3, 2015 at 5:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: The two as far as the body is alive are connected to each other as the driver and the car would
allow the vehicle to move so so far one can not do anything without the other.
Does this means that when the vehicle rot down also the driver rot down?
What would you do when your car fail?
Would you fail and die with your car?
You never thought about it guys, did you?
You keep saying that, but I'm sure most of us have had such thoughts. Is that phrase from your Ananda Marga handbook?
Regardless, what evidence do you have that the brain and consciousness are not the same thing?
(June 3, 2015 at 5:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: All you will do is leave your rotting car and buy a new car in order to carry on toward the goal.
This has already been experiences by thousand of NDEs beside be part of billion of people who believe in reincarnation.
Atwater Wrote:The International Association for Near-Death Studies sent out a questionnaire in 1992 inquiring about those who considered themselves to be near-death experiencers. How close had they been to physical death when their episode occurred? ... 37 percent had theirs in a setting unrelated to anything that could be construed as life threatening. ... The 37 percenters claimed to have experiences every bit as real, involved, and life-changing as those that happened to people during death or close-brush-with-death crises; and their reports duplicate or parallel the same spread of scenario types and a pattern of psychological and physiological aftereffects.
— P.M.H. Atwater, The Big Book of Near-Death Experiences
If a third of those NDE experiencers weren't anywhere near death, it cuts the link between NDEs and death. Your evidence is worth squat.
(June 3, 2015 at 5:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: I am afraid that as soon as physical science will work together with intuitional science and will find out that the brain is a
product of the consciousness mind all atheistic ideas will be shredded in pieces.
Your proof and your evidence are always "someplace else" aren't they? You know what they say: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. If your speculations were based on something solid, that would be different, but all we get from you are analogies, empty claims, and speculations about "the future." Where's your bird in the hand, Rik?