(June 15, 2015 at 5:53 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(June 15, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Godschild Wrote: So you believe they were not very intellectual back then, please explain this to us then. How is it they knew the stars could not be numbered by any man, I'm sure they could count to much more than 6000, which would be the number of visible stars with the necked eye. Not until very recently did we know the number of stars were so enormous. Not til the first telescopes were invented did we know there were more than 6000 stars. So please tell us how is it those unintellegent people who were writing the scriptures could have known such a fact?
GC
Um, GC? The stars can be numbered by any man, in that there is a finite amount of them, therefore counting them all is very possible. It's not an impossible task. So the scriptures are wrong on that point.
But even if they were right, you are wrong in attributing it all to magic. In fact, the idea that there are many more stars than could be seen predates the biblical authors; chinese astronomers were aware that new stars could appear, and in fact they were the first to observe a supernova in 185 AD. You are severely overstressing the insight the scriptural writers may have possessed, even if we take you seriously; it was not unique to your religion.
I mean, that's all ignoring the huge argument from ignorance at the center of your claim here: "If you can't explain it, therefore god. "
The number of stars are estimated to be 1022, with a computer counting a trillion of these every second it would take 300 years to count them, so go ahead give it a try. Supernovas were seen only for a short time then they were gone to the human eye. Get back to me when you've counted all the stars.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.